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Offline Squire

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FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« on: September 13, 2008, 04:27:46 AM »
ALLIED:

Single engined a/c: 117 kills for 234 pts

Twin engined a/c: 86 kills for 430 pts

203 kills for 664 pts

Ground targets: 470 pts

Total: 1134 pts

AXIS

Single engined a/c: 130 kills for 260 pts

Twin engined a/c: 34 kills for 170 pts

164 kills for 430 pts

Ground targets:  572 pts

Total: 1002 pts

Tons of air action, and the Axis managed to get more bombs on high value targets.

There were some a/c on the axis side who attacked A4?, which was not a target. This is an important reminder: Only listed targets are scored, and any a/c lost attacking bases that are not targets just costs your side in lost a/c. Stick to the objectives, and bring home your rides.

Good luck in frame 3.




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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2008, 05:54:04 AM »
Wow, I think this has to be a record for getting out the scores the fastest.

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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2008, 09:44:23 AM »
Squire,

We had three Axis squadrons assigned to strike V32: Precision, Righteous Vengeance and VMF-251. Precision went in first from the W, Precision was to hit from the N, and 251 from the E. IDEALLY would have been timed to be simultaneous, but Precision was in position and due to enemy aircover near their IP elected to go ahead and make their run. They completely flattened 32 on one pass (big :salute for that).

VMF-251 and Righteous Vengeance were ordered by the CiC to strike A4 after Precision took down 32, after we'd asked several times for an alternate target since none of us were in a position to pull up our orders (in the future I'll have them printed out and at my desk).

Not excusing our decision to go ahead and proceed against 4, but there was some confusion involved.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2008, 03:12:28 PM »
Ok, np, Its really a "this just hurts you guys" message. It was the second frame in a row that I saw squads strafing a base that was not an assigned target, and losing a/c while doing it, so I thought I would mention it. Some new players still think anything is open game ala the MA.
« Last Edit: September 13, 2008, 03:14:02 PM by Squire »
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2008, 04:08:49 PM »
Not to put off or say "It ain't my fault you didn't print the maps"...  But as CiC I should have kept my arse in the tower for 120 minutes to bettr coordinate the lost sheep.
 
...after we'd asked several times for an alternate target since none of us were in a position to pull up our orders (in the future I'll have them printed out and at my desk).

Not excusing our decision to go ahead and proceed against 4, but there was some confusion involved.
Now see... This is why I hate text purse fights.  You can never judge what's going on behind the scenes with whomever you're talking with in game.  Case in point are the following 7 screens from the FSO.









I had PM'd Sax about the target availability, while flying in a target rich environment, where I was the target attempting to lay some eggs.  Actually managed to reply to his queries while in the swirl, only to get chewed on by someone esle as to why it took me soooo long to reply about the targets?  C'mon guys, read the text buffers sometime.

So Saxxman, you're a great guy and all that, and I apologise for flying (despite the fact we were still outnumbered) when I was CIC. And I am truly sorry you didn't see my replies and alternate target choices for you. 

Rest assured, should I ever be called upon again, I will not be flying the event... But I will bust the chops of any Squadron that deviates from the orders I send out, unless they get clearance to deviate from the CiC.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2008, 04:25:21 PM »
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Rest assured, should I ever be called upon again, I will not be flying the event...
For what it is worth Odee I always fly even when I CiC. Could be that is why I always lose,  ;) but I enjoy flying with my buds too much to sit in a tower and coordinate things. When I do CiC I have one of my old time squadies take over so I don't have to manage my squad and CiC. That way I can still fly and for the most part keep track of things.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2008, 08:47:38 PM »
 ODEE for what it is worth it was a fine job all the way around , it just got very busy on the target V-32 and when precision rolled over that last hill we followed our assignment as best we could and yes we did flatten it . However due to enemy fighters in abundance we all died to a man . I believe it was better we hit it fast as we discovered it had cap , and in the end the target was destroyed with speed and quickness. Your leadership was fine , orders were clear and this is just something to learn and perfect as CIC .
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2008, 08:59:47 PM »
CiC duty is tough, anybody that takes it on deserves a <S>.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2008, 09:20:05 PM »
May I suggest that in the future that possible secondary targets be listed in the orders?  I know that secondaries may be based on wht happens on the first runs of squads, and the secondaries may just end up being the primaries that was not completely destroyed.  But it still may be a good idea to look at possibly having secondaries listed close by for those that see first target has been takin out.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2008, 09:34:43 PM »
Agreed. Historically pilots would generally be cleared to pursue targets of opportunity (at least fighter and jabo squadrons) once their primary objectives were met.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2008, 10:16:22 PM »
Not to put off or say "It ain't my fault you didn't print the maps"...  But as CiC I should have kept my arse in the tower for 120 minutes to bettr coordinate the lost sheep.
  Now see... This is why I hate text purse fights.  You can never judge what's going on behind the scenes with whomever you're talking with in game.  Case in point are the following 7 screens from the FSO.

I had PM'd Sax about the target availability, while flying in a target rich environment, where I was the target attempting to lay some eggs.  Actually managed to reply to his queries while in the swirl, only to get chewed on by someone esle as to why it took me soooo long to reply about the targets?  C'mon guys, read the text buffers sometime.

So Saxxman, you're a great guy and all that, and I apologise for flying (despite the fact we were still outnumbered) when I was CIC. And I am truly sorry you didn't see my replies and alternate target choices for you. 

Rest assured, should I ever be called upon again, I will not be flying the event... But I will bust the chops of any Squadron that deviates from the orders I send out, unless they get clearance to deviate from the CiC.
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Re: FSO The Dogs of War Frame 2 score
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2008, 09:53:40 AM »
 :salute to the Lynchmob from the 353rd. You guys blew through us like we weren't there. It was like Major Park's Buffalo's trying to hold off the entire IJN at Midway. It hurt! We're still trying to figure out what happened. Our 109's should have out performed your P-39's at that altitude. Instead, over half of us watched our assignment go up in flames from our parachutes. Damn good job you guys! :salute
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