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Offline Yeager

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Re: Message from Chuck...
« Reply #30 on: September 16, 2008, 11:45:27 AM »
that's hogwash.  most national opinion polls bantered about in the daily media consist of less than 2000 people polled, typically 1200 to 1400 from a national "sample".  Hence the plus or minus extrapolation  :rolleyes:

Nice thinking on your part, but flawed.
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« Reply #31 on: September 16, 2008, 12:07:11 PM »
Belittling the small population of one of the top 5 states with regards to economic impact on this nation does not change the fact that it is an economic powerhouse.  One that is being governed very efficiently by the current Governor.

Yeah, no other economic powerhouse receives so many federal subsidies. Alaska gets $1.8 in return for every tax $ sent to Feds.
There's not much to whine about in Alaska and no matter who's the governor, approval rating will be high.

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« Reply #32 on: September 16, 2008, 12:12:57 PM »
Yeah, no other economic powerhouse receives so many federal subsidies. Alaska gets $1.8 in return for every tax $ sent to Feds.

Alaska is 69% federally owned.  Seems we should be paying 69% of the upkeep.
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« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2008, 12:17:10 PM »
Alaska is 69% federally owned.  Seems we should be paying 69% of the upkeep.

"Upkeep" is not included in state budget but federal budget...

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« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2008, 12:19:49 PM »
"Upkeep" is not included in state budget but federal budget...

So feds never use state roads?
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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2008, 12:22:34 PM »
bastards better not.. gotta pay the toll.
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2008, 12:26:16 PM »
So feds never use state roads?

What do you think how the roads are maintained? How the bridges are financed? Where does the money come from? Where from feds buy the gas?

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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2008, 12:33:30 PM »
Don't you mean city, since Alaska only has 683,000 people.

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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2008, 12:41:27 PM »
What do you think how the roads are maintained? How the bridges are financed? Where does the money come from? Where from feds buy the gas?

When I own land, I owe property tax.

When the federal government owns land, they are exempt from property tax.

At least that is the way it is in 53% federally owned Oregon.
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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2008, 01:02:16 PM »
When I own land, I owe property tax.

When the federal government owns land, they are exempt from property tax.

At least that is the way it is in 53% federally owned Oregon.

Really, what property tax has to do with federal subsidies to state of Alaska? Besides, Alaska earns lots of $$ taxing companies for goods coming from federal lands.

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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2008, 01:04:33 PM »
Really, what property tax has to do with federal subsidies to state of Alaska? Besides, Alaska earns lots of $$ taxing companies for goods coming from federal lands.

Owners of land pay money to the local governments which govern the land in which the land exists.

I think that this should not too difficult to grasp.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2008, 01:27:37 PM »
It makes me chuckle every time I see Palin's 80% favorable rating in her home state.  Alaska is the single most republican (and possibly conservative) dominated state in the union.  Use it for what you will, but the statistics are severely misleading.



And yet they are cool with anyone growing up to 10 mj plants, whats up with that?  Alaska is confusing.
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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2008, 01:28:57 PM »
that's hogwash.  most national opinion polls bantered about in the daily media consist of less than 2000 people polled, typically 1200 to 1400 from a national "sample".  Hence the plus or minus extrapolation  :rolleyes:

Nice thinking on your part, but flawed.

Take a statistics class.  Polls that give a +- 3 % took a good sample.  Nice thinking on your part, but flawed.  :aok
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2008, 01:30:22 PM »
Owners of land pay money to the local governments which govern the land in which the land exists.

I think that this should not too difficult to grasp.

Local governments DO NOT govern federal lands. Majority of federal land is in public domain and only Congress has the exclusive right to administer the public lands.

I think that this should not be too difficult to grasp.


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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2008, 01:44:50 PM »
hang.. forget it..  moray does not get it.   He thinks that only socialism and big government and us all living in big craphole cities will work.

People in the rural areas feel more in control of their lives and resent government less.. that is all there is to it.

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Completely not how I think.  I want neither socialism, nor big government.(a reminder that this administration has grown government more than any other this CENTURY)  Please refrain from your idiocy, if that is possible, and cease the personal agenda you have with me. 

Possibly the people in rural areas are more "out of touch", is more likely.  Or that they just plain don't care until it affects them, personally?  In either respect, all of the smallest states, population wise, either democrat or republican leaning, had the highest approval ratings for their governor.
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