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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2008, 07:45:38 AM »
The Boston is a plane I use all the time. It is a lot of fun to dog fight in & people under estimate it.

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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2008, 12:28:44 PM »
You're an idiot when you say P-39D, that thing would own you any day. You think it stinks because it doesnt have uber wep. But the 39D has a firm foot hold in AHII, and in the right hands, can easily hold it's own in the MA.  :confused:


Same as Boston III, just because it's ENY isn't 5, doesn't mean it stinks.


I suppose you're going to add the Yak 9T/U, Spit 9, Spit 5, 109G2/6, 109F, F4U-1??

You, nor I have been playing long enough to accurately judge any plane.

What the crap?  He just said they're hardly used, not that they stink.  He didn't even imply that. 

Now I'm going to read the rest of the thread but I couldn't continue to read with out responding to this needless attack on the OP.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2008, 08:06:47 PM »
by starting this i was only saying that maybe we could have done some better things with the desicions. we could have first tackled what ppl have been asking for like the he-111,li-2,yak series,m-18 hellcat,maybe a good british tank,or much more.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2008, 08:35:42 PM »
by starting this i was only saying that maybe we could have done some better things with the desicions. we could have first tackled what ppl have been asking for like the he-111,li-2,yak series,m-18 hellcat,maybe a good british tank,or much more.
I hate to tell you, but all those things would soon after introduction have threads made about them like yours.
The Spitfire Mk1, Boston III, and P39D, among others that you didn't list, are not necessarily competitive LW aircraft, but they're very important for scenario use (imagine a BoB scenario without the Spitfire Mk1!).
Just like the He-111, Pe-2, any more Yak's, or many of the other planes you see so often reqested, will most likely be 'hangar queens' in the LWMA, used only be people who don't care about flying teh besttest.
If the He111 is introduced, you will not likely see it very often. Same with the Yak 1 and 7. Same with the Pe2. The only aircraft that I could see being added and immediately used are the Me410, B29, and A26.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2008, 08:54:34 PM »
The only aircraft that I could see being added and immediately used are the Me410, B29, and A26.
The B-29A and A-26 would both be perk aircraft.  The Me410 would be mediocre to say the least, but used a lot as a base porker.

The Tu-2 would probably get some use as would the Do217, Ju188 or He177.  There are a few other aircraft that would be used with some frequency as well, but very few "mass use" aircraft are left to be added.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2008, 08:58:30 PM »
The Me410 would be mediocre to say the least, but used a lot as a base porker.
Considering one of the more common a/c in the MA today is the Bf110G being used for NOE missions I think the Me410 would see tons of use.

The Do217, 188, and Tu2 would be nice but I don't think the majority of MA toolshed'ers will step outside of the Lancaster, B17 and B24. The 217 188 and Tu2 will probably only mainly affect people that fly B26's regularly.
The 177 would be interesting, though. But I'd rather see more influential aircraft added first.

Don't take my previous post as saying I would not like to have more EW planes. I don't want any more LW planes at all for a while, personally.

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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2008, 09:17:28 PM »
p-39d

bostonIII

spit 1

can anyone think of anything else?

You're obviously blind, looking for attention, or both.   All of the above are used often. 

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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2008, 10:23:24 AM »
The bahston III carries four 500lb bombs (x3 in a flight).  If you're real good with your bombing aim a flight of Bahstons can take out two fighter hangers on the mediem airfield in one pass (4k on each hanger).  If you are high enough and fast enough... few will catch you as the Bahstons can cruise very well.  But then again... there seems to be more and more bomb-n-bail'in goin on these days.  :mad: 

I am very surprised the British didnt develope it further and add more of a bomb load like the US did to the A20.  But... the Mossi came along and stole its thunder, I 'spose. 
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2008, 10:39:53 AM »
I am very surprised the British didnt develope it further and add more of a bomb load like the US did to the A20.  But... the Mossi came along and stole its thunder, I 'spose. 
The Boston's performance in reality was much worse than it is in AH.  Sure, it could reach these speeds, but bombers did not use full throttle for significant periods of time and instead flew on cruise settings.  A Mossie on cruise settings is much, much faster than a Boston on cruise settings.  The first squadron to switch to Mosquitoes was a Boston squadron, and they were very, very happy to do so.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2008, 11:24:11 AM »
p-39d

bostonIII

spit 1

can anyone think of anything else?

boston is the A20, right?

i see them fairly often in mw. same for the spit1
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2008, 11:25:49 AM »
i forget which p-39 it is. but i never see bostons in mid war,late war and almost never in early war

you don't look hard enough
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2008, 11:27:01 AM »
i forget which p-39 it is. but i never see bostons in mid war,late war and almost never in early war

find cobia, and u find bostons. you'll also find them shredding whatever you choose to fly against it if cobia's flying it. :D
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2008, 11:33:00 AM »
I flew the N1K for a bit, good fighter but really had no better luck getting/landing kills in it than my standard 15/20ENY rides. (47,F6F,38,F4U) It seems to me that lower ENY rides have more to offer up front but what you see initially is what you get, period. Not so for many of the higher ENY rides- methinks this is why so many most of the better sticks "graduate" from LaLas and Spixteens. (not just to escape the labeling)
SpitXVI is awesome, yet manages barely a 1-1 kill ratio month to month...still amazes me.

well, some lable them as trainers. this is true to an extent.
when i first joined i was trying the pony, and the 38. i couldn't last long enough to make a single turn.
i was severly anti-spitfire from the old AW days, but i broke down and tried one.  i think my experssion was something like  :O as i not only managed a few turns, but for the first time in one of the MA's, i saw my rounds land home.
 the spits/hurris/zekes, and other "easy mode" planes let you stay alive long enough to learn some maneuvers. then you can venture out into the more difficult rides. i like the hellcat.....a lot, although i still come across a lot of situations i don't know how to handle in that ride. but the only way i'm gonna learn is to do it, and try.

the "easy mode" planes have their place in defense too. excellent aircraft for very quick launch and immediate fights.
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2008, 11:33:45 AM »
I fly the Spit I every few camps.  It's one of the best turn fighters out there although the firepower's a little weak.

I also fly the Boston as a mid weight bomber almost every camp.  It climbs like a banshee, is fast and carries enough ord to be destructive.

biggest thing i hate about them.......if you don't wanna fight, it seems you can outrun almost anything
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Re: somes planes that never get use
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2008, 11:41:44 AM »
The Boston's performance in reality was much worse than it is in AH.  Sure, it could reach these speeds, but bombers did not use full throttle for significant periods of time and instead flew on cruise settings.  A Mossie on cruise settings is much, much faster than a Boston on cruise settings...
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I see Boston's quite a bit as a quick response bomber unit. Good rate of climb and reasonably fast. No real defensive guns, but that's part of the trade.
If I was going to pick a bomber that you don't see often, it would be the B25-C.

How about adding the Mk IX or Mk XVI version of the Mosquito? A "glass nosed" version of the Mossie would be great  :)