501 group stooping to new lows..

[Elfie]

If you mean the repeal of Glass-Steagall, then I wonder if you might remember who sponsored that bill? "Put in place by the Clinton Administration" is a complete stretch. Clinton signed the bill... the republiclowns came up with it.

Everyone is at fault for repealing Glass-Steagall, the bill sponsor, Clinton for singing the stupid thing, but even more so, every retard that voted for it.

[tapakeg]

Just because you have a keyboard does not mean you should post topics.      

[Toad]

Who passed the bill MT?

DEMOCRATS FOR (38): Akaka, Baucus, Bayh, BIDEN, Bingaman, Breaux, Byrd, Cleland, Conrad, Daschle, Dodd, Durbin, Edwards, Feinstein, Graham (Fla.), Hollings, Inouye, Johnson, Kennedy, Kerrey (Neb.), Kerry (Mass.), Kohl, Landrieu, Lautenberg, Leahy, Levin, Lieberman, Lincoln, Moynihan, Murray, Reed (R.L), Reid (Nev.), Robb, Rockefeller, Sarbanes, Schumer, Torricelli and Wyden.


DEMOCRATS AGAINST(7): Boxer, Bryan, Dorgan, Feingold, Harkin, Mikulski and Wellstone.

Hey, see anybody in there that has/had aspirations to run for the Executive Branch?  

It's absolutely, unequivocably clear that this bill had the support of all but 10 Senators. BOTH PARTIES were in the tank on this one.

MT, I accept your apology. I know it must sting.

[Elfie]

Who passed the bill MT?

Hey, see anybody in the that has/had aspirations to run for the Executive Branch?  

It's absolutely, unequivocably clear that this bill had the support of all but 10 Senators. BOTH PARTIES were in the tank on this one.

MT, I accept your apology. I know it must sting.

That's exactly it Toad, doesn't matter who sponsored it. Ninety morons voted yes on it. Those ninety morons should have told the bill sponsor to go suck an egg but they didn't. And with 90 Senators voting yes, it was pretty pointless for Clinton to veto it.

[Toad]

Oh... I forgot this:

VOTE LIBERTARIAN!

[crockett]

Who sponsored the bill Toad?

Oh but that's diffrent you know...

[Elfie]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)

"Organizations with this classification are prohibited from conducting political campaign activities to influence elections to public office. Public charities (but not private foundations[citation needed]) are permitted to conduct a limited amount of lobbying to influence legislation. Although the law states that "no substantial part" of a public charity's activities may be devoted to lobbying, charities with very large budgets may lawfully expend a million dollars (under the "expenditure" test) or more (under the "substantial part" test) per year on lobbying. [7]

All 501(c)(3) organizations are also permitted to educate individuals about issues, or fund research that supports their political position without overtly advocating for a position on a specific bill. Think tanks such as the Cato Institute, Center for American Progress, and Heritage Foundation and other 501(c)(3) organizations produce reports and recommendations on policy proposals that do not count as lobbying under the tax code. Another example is the The American Foreign Policy Council is a lobbyist organization operating under this code.

First, your link isn't working correctly. Second, this information doesn't really say *what* a 501 group is.

Another question that comes to mind is, how do we know this particular group is in fact a 501 group?

[crockett]

Everyone is at fault for repealing Glass-Steagall, the bill sponsor, Clinton for singing the stupid thing, but even more so, every retard that voted for it.

Actually the bill overall wasn't bad. I posted info about it in another topic. Some of the good things, was it gave more power back to the states for insurance regulation. It also made ATM vendors post their fees on their machines something they didn't have to do before then, allowing them to charge what ever they wanted with out knowing.

there was also a lot of things that helped out the banking and insurance markets allowing them easier access to loans a much easier ways to do things with out all the red tape. Overall the bill was looked at as good by just about everyone because it over all was. The problem came from many of the hidden things that allowed for the total deregulation on many parts of the lending industry which has caused the mess we are in today.

[Bodhi]

Anyone that could actually support Palin thinking she is even remotely qualified has problems.

Apparently over 50% of the nation "has problems".

Keep grasping for straws liberal.

[Hangtime]

I've posted rumors but that's far from a lie..

hey, this is fun!

[crockett]

First, your link isn't working correctly. Second, this information doesn't really say *what* a 501 group is.

Another question that comes to mind is, how do we know this particular group is in fact a 501 group?

dunno why the link didn't work..  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)

likely because it uses (c) in it.. Just do a search on google for "501 organization"

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en&q=501+organization

As for how I know they are a 501 group, is because they themself claim they are.

http://clarionfund.org/

[Toad]

The problem came from many of the hidden things that allowed for the total deregulation on many parts of the lending industry which has caused the mess we are in today.

Hidden? Are you claiming that text was left out of the bill as presented to the Senators? Or are you saying that our Senators <gasp> can't read simple English? Or that our Senator's <GASP!> don't completely read the bills they vote upon?

Or... wait.... this was all an evil plot by the neocons and they used a type of ink that is only visible in a certain wavelength of light so that only the inner circle of Skull & Bones could read the hidden provisions? That MUST be it!!! Where was Bush2 in all this? He had to have a hand in this skullduggery.

[Elfie]

Actually the bill overall wasn't bad. I posted info about it in another topic. Some of the good things, was it gave more power back to the states for insurance regulation. It also made ATM vendors post their fees on their machines something they didn't have to do before then, allowing them to charge what ever they wanted with out knowing.

there was also a lot of things that helped out the banking and insurance markets allowing them easier access to loans a much easier ways to do things with out all the red tape. Overall the bill was looked at as good by just about everyone because it over all was. The problem came from many of the hidden things that allowed for the total deregulation on many parts of the lending industry which has caused the mess we are in today.

Ever hear the phrase, a few bad apples spoils the entire barrel? Sounds like in the case of this bill, a few bad apples spoiled the entire barrel. It still shouldn't have been passed with the deregulation issues.

[Hangtime]

there was also a lot of things that helped out the banking and insurance markets allowing them easier access to loans a much easier ways to do things with out all the red tape. Overall the bill was looked at as good by just about everyone because it over all was. The problem came from many of the hidden things that allowed for the total deregulation on many parts of the lending industry which has caused the mess we are in today.

Yah.. without rapacious limits like regulations the banks helped themselves to the public's money, failed and got helped out by the public's money. Duh.

Greed. Democratic, Republican, Corporate greed. Get over it crockett. Yer boys are just as dirty as the other teams.

Now, the real question is; what's the Fed really up to?

[Elfie]

dunno why the link didn't work..  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)

likely because it uses (c) in it.. Just do a search on google for "501 organization"

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLL_en&q=501+organization

As for how I know they are a 501 group, is because they themself claim they are.

http://clarionfund.org/

I'm not trying to be a pain in the rear, I just don't know anything about these things.