P47 Discussion

[SmokinLoon]

I can vouch for the P47D-40 at high alts.  Other than my tinkering around with high alt bomber huntiong, I went around and around with one between 20-25k while I was in a Spit14 and I had nothing on him other than a tighter turn at the end of a loong extended turn.  Ultimately, he won out because I stalled out (didnt have stall limiter on) and lost control down to 19k or so and had to DIVE to escape... or so I thought.  He didnt get me.  My wings went "snap" somewhere above the 500mph threshold.   

[Stoney]

My squaddies and I used to take Novembers up, with 100% internal, and 300 gallons of wing drops.  We'd climb up to 25-30K or so, and chase darbar that we figured for high-altitude bomber score-potatos.  Some of those missions would last almost 2 hours (with all that fuel), and we'd usually come home with 4-6 kills.  At that altitude, you can really expand your area of influence since you can fly at 425 mph.  At those speeds you can cover a sector in 3.5 minutes.

Those were usually pretty fun missions, but we quit because of a dearth of targets.  I may need to start doing those again.

[Rebel]

My squaddies and I used to take Novembers up, with 100% internal, and 300 gallons of wing drops.  We'd climb up to 25-30K or so, and chase darbar that we figured for high-altitude bomber score-potatos.  Some of those missions would last almost 2 hours (with all that fuel), and we'd usually come home with 4-6 kills.  At that altitude, you can really expand your area of influence since you can fly at 425 mph.  At those speeds you can cover a sector in 3.5 minutes.

Those were usually pretty fun missions, but we quit because of a dearth of targets.  I may need to start doing those again.

Hey dude, if you see me on, shoot me a line if you do something like that- sounds like fun!

[Grape]

I want a shirt with a pair of JUGS printed on it. I love the JUG Need to wear something the convention

[832725]

Ah the mighty T-bolt... How have your reputation as a Fighter diminished over the years. Countless P47s are shot down due to the overloading of it's wing points and countless times they have become the " oooo P47 low, EZ kill " Stereotypes. Well the P47 is a outstanding Dog fighter, one of the best to be exact because it has many characteristics that is not employed to there greatest ability. Pilots just use the P47 as a workhorse for base porking and hence the reputation of a easy kill p47 was born.

I'm writing to try and change that. The P47 is an amazing fighter plane as well as a outstanding ground attack plane. It's just when you load it to the brim with options you lose value speed and drag deductions that greatly hampers your ability to defend yourself. I'm the CO of the 84th Fighter Squadron/ 78th Fighter Group which is a P47 Squadron and I've been training my guys on how to effectively use the T-bolt along side wingman tactics and working as a team.

Let's go over the P47s Strengths:

• High Speed Maneuverability ( one of the best fighters at high speeds. )
• Diving Ability ( nothing in the game can match a P47 in a 0 G dive. Best Diver in the game. )
• Firepower ( With 8 .50 caliber machine guns with 3200 rounds of ammo and the ability to carry over 3,000LB worth of ordnance with bombs and rockets, the P47 is a steller Ground attack plane, One of the best. )
• Instantaneous Turn Rate ( The P47 is a great turner with speed. And above 300 MPH you can turn with just about any plane in the game for quick snapshot's, deflections, etc.)
• Visibility ( All of the P47s have outstanding cockpit view excluding the D11. Along with superb SA makes a deadly combination with the ability to spot cons first.)
• High Speed Flaps ( The T-bolt has High speed flaps that can pop out a notch of flaps untill 475 ISA. That notch of flaps comes in handy when making high speed snapshots, maneuvering, deflections, etc. )
  

• Durability ( Now this is debatable, but from my experience the T-bolt in AH lives up to the rep for the ability to sustain massive amount of damage. I've personally have survived many encounters shot up, dmg, oil, parts missing, etc and i was able to take her home limping. She can sustain damage, just not for very long in my experience.)
• High Alt Performance ( The P47 is one of the best planes in the game at high altitude. It's performance does not decrease once above 20k, but yet increases. That Supercharger really is a blessing up high while majority of the planes in AH performance rapidly decreases above 20k. So above 20k the P47 reigns supreme in the hands of a skilled pilot.
• Speed ( Speed is somewhat average-above average. The P47 is in the middle of the pack in mid alt engagements but if you're in trouble, a 0 G dive will quickly increase your speed to gain some separation. As long as you spot the con before he becomes a threat, you'll be able to make a egress. Above 20k the P47 is one of the fastest planes at Alt.
• Roll Rate ( Beautiful. The p47 can roll with the best of them and come out on top, along with some rudder input you'll be able to out maneuver alot of planes and catch them by surprise with your quickness. Also helps when in a scissors engagement. )

ok i admit the P-47 is a kool and fast plane. The only reason i dont fly it is its too nig-fat,easy for fighters to kill ya unless u got some tricks which i dont. Anyway good luck 84FS!

[BnZ]

You claim to be able to fight in a Fw-190A8. If you can vaguely dogfight in a 190A8, a Jug is easy mode for you.

Of course, you can't and it isn't, and I know this, so why did i even bother with this post....

[Fender16]

The jug can kill planes like no other.
Stay out of the slow turn fights and you are pretty much untouchable.
I fly the D-25 the most. Handles really well.
I really only die when I get ganged or get careless and lose all my E.

Best thing to do when in a jug and you have someone on your six is act like you don't see them. Keep an eye on 'em, wait until they get to about 400, do a pop with a barrel roll and 1 notch of flaps.
Next thing you know they are in front of you. (Works MOST of the time)