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[Latrobe]

"replace one worry with another"

  That's how AHII will grow.

[FireDragon]

Mabye they mean   as in tanks

Worry  about the new t34-  and the gun package on the il2

[Fender16]

People are scared of the IL-2 now.
I was about to cannon some poor Panzer and he towered out.
A t-34 did the same thing.
I was actually disappointed, I really wanted to lay down some hurt with my shinny new 37mm cannons.

[kvuo75]

i think the IL2 probably more of a problem to gv'ers now than the t34/85

i happeend upon a group of wirbles/osties earlier and each one took 2 hull hits from the 85 ap's.   


the 37mm IL2... OH YEAH!  hurri D? what?

I dont think "kill ords at the airbase before we roll GV" will work as good anymore   it will be "kill bomber hangars AND ords first"

[Motherland]

Those 37mm's fire fast.

[Spikes]

How many rounds does the IL carry with the 37mms? Personally I think I will still use the 23mm rounds.

[Fender16]

100 rounds of pure fun.

[Denholm]

This is an update... not a patch.

[Spikes]

Oh, 100 rounds? Guess I'll have to try it out then

[SmokinLoon]

The dual 37mm on the IL-2 deleiver "32" points of dmg per impact vs the Hurricane IID's dual 40mm worth "28" dmg per impact.

Unless those prjectiles are magic, I dont think the air to ground-cannon game is going to change much.  Granted, the IL-2 is much tougher to take down, but still. 

[kvuo75]

The dual 37mm on the IL-2 deleiver "32" points of dmg per impact vs the Hurricane IID's dual 40mm worth "28" dmg per impact.

Unless those prjectiles are magic, I dont think the air to ground-cannon game is going to change much.  Granted, the IL-2 is much tougher to take down, but still. 

you have not seen the rate of fire? It's much higher. I figure, 2x the rate of fire of the hurri D, at least.


I (who is barely adequate at strafing tanks with 23mm or 40mm -- and completely fail with 75mm) can kill tanks in 1 pass now. hurri D takes careful setup, and aim and convergence..

Killing a panzer with the new IL2 is like killing a M3 with a N1K.

Not that I'm complaining, I just think it's going to completely change the ground game.

[442w30]

The T34/85 does not impress me in my initial runs.  I hit a panzer 6 times, 4 hull and 2 turret, at 1700 from the front and it lived.  Took 8 hits on the sorties.  2 turreted me, 4 killed me, 2 did not damage me.  The closest was ~1400, most were over 2k.  The hits that ricocheted were all over 3k.

HVAP was useless over 1600 as I made 10 hits on different panzers without causing damage. 

In short the gun seems appropriately modeled. 

Its ability to climb hills either directly or across the slope seems poor, but its cross country level speed is 35.  Reverse is also quick.

Views are pretty good when set correctly.

It should not be the all conquering GV that some thought it would be when it was announced. 

[Wmaker]

you have not seen the rate of fire? It's much higher. I figure, 2x the rate of fire of the hurri D, at least.

Yep, the rate of fire is higher and the 37mms have a lot smaller recoil than the 40mms in the Hurri IID which also as a big affect. I think I usually fire the Hurri IID cannons only twice per attack run.

[CAP1]

i think the IL2 probably more of a problem to gv'ers now than the t34/85

i happeend upon a group of wirbles/osties earlier and each one took 2 hull hits from the 85 ap's.   


the 37mm IL2... OH YEAH!  hurri D? what?

I dont think "kill ords at the airbase before we roll GV" will work as good anymore   it will be "kill bomber hangars AND ords first"

possibly you guys'll learn to do it right now. it's not "kill ords".

it's "kill all the hangars, AS we roll gv's

[SD67]

Isn't that how it goes anyway? 4 trios at 30K to level the field, then send in the Jabos and Goon?