Author Topic: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?  (Read 2208 times)

Offline SmokinLoon

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2008, 09:48:09 PM »
Remember, there are more things to rate a tank on than the power of its gun.  It is capable of 35mph after all.  One has to wonder how in the *&^%$# HTC comes up with a perk score for the T34/85mm and not he Spit16, La7, or Nik2. 

Yeah, it is too bad that it has a turret made of cheese and that becasue of that the T34 or T34/85mm does not live up to its legendary status and is the joke of the AH2 game, but it is fast and an oncoming horde of them (10+) should strike fear into all Firefly and Tiger drivers.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #31 on: September 27, 2008, 11:48:30 PM »
Now what's is k/d vs all tanks hmmmm?

Yes, of course it's higher, but the cost ratio for a Tiger vs a Sherman is ~6:1.  A 6 perk tank can go toe-to-toe with a 34 perk tank; it doesn't make sense.  I don't want to see the cost of the Tiger reduced, but the M4 should be increased.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 05:52:45 AM »
OK, let me state up front that the perk is necessary.  Simply because of it's speed.  The drat thing is 10 MPH faster than any other effective tank in game.  If it did not have that low perk price, it would be the next Zergrush tank, supplanting the T-34/76.  The gun is about where I thought it would be (under 1500m and it just surpasses the performance of the 75mm on the Panzer IV H).    It's quick, has a decent gun (under 1500m), and the armor should shrug off most shots taken over 1500m by the 75mm KwK 40 L/48 of the Panzer IV (The only effective non perked tank in game).  The T-34/76, although useful, is not as effective as a tank, simply because of the glacial reload time of it's main gun.  It is best used as an ambush tank, or Zerging towns/bases.  The perk of the T-34/85 is necessary, otherwise usage of the Panzer, and T-34/76, will be nonexistent.

[hijack]I do however have issue with the perk price of the M4, and/or the Tiger I.  The perk price needs to be evened out, either the M4 perk price needs to be doubled, or the Tiger I's price needs to be halved(along with a more realistic damage model against bombs, HINT HINT Hitech).  This will better align weapon and armor effectiveness with K/D, and usage rates.[/hijack]

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 07:35:28 PM »
OK, let me state up front that the perk is necessary.  Simply because of it's speed.  The drat thing is 10 MPH faster than any other effective tank in game.  If it did not have that low perk price, it would be the next Zergrush tank, supplanting the T-34/76.  The gun is about where I thought it would be (under 1500m and it just surpasses the performance of the 75mm on the Panzer IV H).    It's quick, has a decent gun (under 1500m), and the armor should shrug off most shots taken over 1500m by the 75mm KwK 40 L/48 of the Panzer IV (The only effective non perked tank in game).  The T-34/76, although useful, is not as effective as a tank, simply because of the glacial reload time of it's main gun.  It is best used as an ambush tank, or Zerging towns/bases.  The perk of the T-34/85 is necessary, otherwise usage of the Panzer, and T-34/76, will be nonexistent.

[hijack]I do however have issue with the perk price of the M4, and/or the Tiger I.  The perk price needs to be evened out, either the M4 perk price needs to be doubled, or the Tiger I's price needs to be halved(along with a more realistic damage model against bombs, HINT HINT Hitech).  This will better align weapon and armor effectiveness with K/D, and usage rates.[/hijack]

Oh... but it deosnt.  I have yet to have a hit from a Pzr NOT take out the turret from any distance.  If the incoming round hits the front of the turrent... might as well tower out and get a new tank.  The T34 series, both the 76mm and 85mm have turrents made of cheese and are knocked out of commision far too easily.  Read up and just see how inaccurate this is compared to the real thing in WWII.  You wont find testimony anywhere making comment on how fragile the T34 turrets were.  At least I have to read or hear of any testimory saying so and I have read... a lot and spoken to... many.    :)
« Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 07:39:12 PM by SmokinLoon »
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2008, 09:39:35 PM »
Should I look for a film I have where it took 3 hits to kill a T34 with a Panzer, with one on the turret the suffered no damage, and at fairly close range?
« Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 11:09:20 PM by Anaxogoras »
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 09:48:19 PM »
What part of SHOULD SHRUG OFF did you not understand? :rolleyes:  Yes, the turret is made of Brie, when it should have a damage model closer to a Fireflys turret.  No argument from me on that point.

Now, if you have a comment about my post, and the necessity of the low perk for the T-34/85, or telling me I'm full of it, and your reasons why it shouldn't be perked, I will be glad to hear it.