Author Topic: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?  (Read 2223 times)

Offline 1pLUs44

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I like it and all, but I honestly dont think it's all that good. It doesn't hold very many rounds, and from what I've seen on here, the AP is not nearly as powerful as the Panzers. :(



Any thoughts.

(I really do like it, just kinda disappointed to see it perked.)
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2008, 10:39:07 PM »
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2008, 10:42:36 PM »
No, it shouldn't be perked.  It is about on par with the Panzer IV H.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2008, 10:44:16 PM »
Thats what I think. Only difference I can really come up with is armour and speed.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2008, 12:57:48 AM »
Bah, its 3 points. I have thousands!
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2008, 02:08:07 AM »
No, it shouldn't be perked.  It is about on par with the Panzer IV H.

Agreed. Its just about the same and deserves no perk price.

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2008, 06:05:20 AM »
Agreed. Its just about the same and deserves no perk price.

It might be a little early to draw any conclusions, but in the first 24h the T-34/85 is killing Panzer IV's at a 2-1 ratio. Impressive if you consider that when a GV is new, a lot of people trying silly things in it...
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2008, 12:33:30 PM »
It might be a little early to draw any conclusions, but in the first 24h the T-34/85 is killing Panzer IV's at a 2-1 ratio. Impressive if you consider that when a GV is new, a lot of people trying silly things in it...
If it maintains that ratio it does need to be perked, at least lightly.

I would very much like to see an unperked tank besides the Panzer IV H though.  The T-34/76 does not count as it is practically never seen.  Maybe an Easy Eight would fit in that spot?
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2008, 03:05:54 PM »
I played in this tank a lot last night.

It owns the Panzer IV.  Hands down.

The only weak spot is that the T34/85 turret can easily be popped by the Panzer, but the Panzer's turret will go out too from the 85mm gun on the T34.  And the T34, at ranges in the 1500ish area where I got a lot of kills last night, will kill the Panzer far more often per hit than the Panzer will kill the T34.

My experiences last night include:

Killed a Tiger at 150 yards or so from the side as he passed a gap in a hedge.  Killed another Tiger from the front left quarter from 100 yards.  Hit a Tiger turret smack in the face from 25 yards and did nothing.  This is not a Sherman gun, it is not a silver bullet against the Tiger, but it is capable, particularly if you can hit the side armor, and from longer ranges than the T34/76 would do it.

I killed a bunch of M4s.  I recall killing at least two at 800-1000 yards with hvap rounds into the front glacis of the M4.  Try killing a Sherman that way in a T34/76 from *any* range and you'll die.  Side armor shots into the M4 from 800-1200 yards were one-shot kills probably 90% of the time.  You could kill Shermans in the side with the old T34, but you wanted to be much closer before you fired, just to improve your odds.  Now you take the shot if you can hit with it, and the M4 is vulnerable.

My expectations of the gun power are actually surpassed.  I thought it would be about as effective as the Panzer gun, but I think it's actually a little more powerful than that.  It's not as powerful as the Tiger gun or the Sherman gun, but it shouldn't be.

My big complaint is that the T34/85 turret is made of wet toilet paper.  Almost anything will pop it, easily.  Was it *really* that easy to pop in WWII?  I would laugh my butt off, but wouldn't be shocked, if a guy could bail out of his fighter, pop his chute, land near a T34/85 and cap it with his Colt 1911 and smoke the turret.

I did also notice that the hill-climbing ability was very much lessened compared to the old T34, even on very shallow grades.  I consistently had to drop a whole gear or so lower than I'd been used to using in that tank.

In short, in a pure tank vs. tank battle, the Sherman will still dominate everything (but the Tiger, which it will be close to be still behind in kill ratio, and for much fewer perks).  The T34/85 will come next, followed by the Panzer, then the T34/76 a very distant last.  But I drove around the T34/76 in hundreds of missions in recent months, and I'm going to really enjoy using the T34/85.  If you can hold onto your turret, you can have a great time in this tank.

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2008, 04:57:30 PM »
The T-85 does have its advantages, the speed of the t-34, faster reload time.

but i wasnt as impressed as sethipus with the fire power.  first few min of playing last night after the patch i killed 3 t-85's with a panzr, one of them i turreted and tracked with a single shot.
after that i tried it out for myself in a GV battle and i only mad a few kills and spent alot of time on my side from being tracked but i bounced ALOT of rounds off of pnzrs and tigers.

you can shoot longer ranges then the t-34, rolled to a airfield and shot at another tank around 2K out and bounced 10 rounds off of him before he got me so i had to come back with a panzr and got him in 2 shots from the same spot i was at with the t-85,   after the first night some are probly having better luck then others with it.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #10 on: September 18, 2008, 05:55:16 PM »
I thought the T-34/85's turret was uparmored compared to the T-34/76?  I can't seem to find any numbers on the internet as it seems my old tank sites are no longer up.
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2008, 07:46:27 PM »
I got on the other night and used the new T-34 exclusively until I had a good feel for it.  I like it overall.  The speed of the reload is much better and that makes it to me 10 time better.  The killing power of the 85mm is good.  I had many kills on shermans from both side and front and a flank shot was a for sure kill.  Frontal shot was about an 80% kill depending on exactly where I hit.  The gun sight is much better than the old gun sight and I attribute a good percentage of my kills to the wider view from the sight and being able to see more while in the scope.  The armor is good but still the T-34 can be taken out by a sherman/tiger.  As far as a panzer if it hits you dead on in the turret it might take you out or just disable you (i guess it is lady luck which one you get).  I tried several differnt tactics to see where it best perfromed (close up shooting, distance shooting, and I still need some more fighting in it to see which I prefer.  In time I think I can rack up some decents numbers in this ride.

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2008, 07:53:30 PM »
Agreed. Its just about the same and deserves no perk price.
If this happens, u'll never c the T34-76 again on the field of battle : (The battle that i will win :aok with an M8)
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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2008, 08:06:45 PM »
T-34/85 turret:
90mm frontal armor
75mm side armor
52mm rear armor

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Re: From what I've read about our new T-34, should it really be perked?
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2008, 12:21:12 AM »
T-34/85 turret:
90mm frontal armor
75mm side armor
52mm rear armor
That's good armor thickness.  Then why in the heck is the T34/85 turret so insanely easy to pop?  It's nearly impossible to hit it with any gun on any tank in the game from any range without it popping.

Is this a bug we're seeing, or can someone explain why this is happening?