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Offline Motherland

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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 03:19:24 PM »
Quote from: glock89 on September 19, 2008, 02:05:04 PM
Look for your self.
The majority of those are war time aircraft. 100% American home grown.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2008, 03:42:03 PM »
Quote from: Sunka on September 19, 2008, 03:17:23 PM
HA HA what are the chances same day just a few hours apart.I got the link from a squaddie in an e mail.


So did I.... hmmm...
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2008, 03:47:07 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on September 19, 2008, 03:19:24 PM
The majority of those are war time aircraft. 100% American home grown.
Never saw action.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 03:47:59 PM »
Quote from: glock89 on September 19, 2008, 03:47:07 PM
Never saw action.
That doesn't mean they were based on German aircraft.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 03:48:17 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on September 19, 2008, 03:47:59 PM
That doesn't mean they were based on German aircraft.
Some were.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 04:06:55 PM »
Quote from: glock89 on September 19, 2008, 03:48:17 PM
Some were.
Actually, none of those aircraft really jump out at me as having German roots. Care pointing a few out?
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2008, 04:12:59 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on September 19, 2008, 04:06:55 PM
Actually, none of those aircraft really jump out at me as having German roots. Care pointing a few out?
The jet engines. F-86 Ta-183 there 1. 
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2008, 04:27:41 PM »
Quote from: glock89 on September 19, 2008, 04:12:59 PM
The jet engines. F-86 Ta-183 there 1. 
The F86 isn't on there. All the jet aircraft on there are wartime aircraft that were developed without the help of captured German aircraft (well, the P80 didn't see service until Korea, but was quite clearly not influenced by German technology).
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2008, 04:48:54 PM »
Quote from: Motherland on September 19, 2008, 04:27:41 PM
The F86 isn't on there. All the jet aircraft on there are wartime aircraft that were developed without the help of captured German aircraft (well, the P80 didn't see service until Korea, but was quite clearly not influenced by German technology).
The B-17 with v1 under the wings. Alot of stuff was influenced by German technology stg 44 look alot like the Ak-47
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2008, 05:17:37 PM »
Quote from: glock89 on September 19, 2008, 04:48:54 PM
The B-17 with v1 under the wings. Alot of stuff was influenced by German technology stg 44 look alot like the Ak-47


LOL this shows just how totally ignorant some of you are. The MP44 was actually developed in response to the soviet PPsh-41. It is an exceptional and revolutionary weapon and is the 1st true assault rifle (vs a submachinegun or automatic rifle). It has nothing in common (beyond the concept) with the AK-47. A tremendous amount of academic exchange occurred in the 1930's....we see revolutionary advances incorporated by nations while the originating nation ignored it (Christie suspension to name one). Many of the German aviation concepts actually come from external or academic sources which inspired competing technologies (biggest would be the atomic bomb). The concept of the jet engine predates WW2 and every major power had a jet engine program of some kind by 1941.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2008, 05:21:27 PM »
LMAO a B17 with 5 engines?!
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2008, 05:31:49 PM »
Quote from: SpikesX on September 19, 2008, 05:21:27 PM
LMAO a B17 with 5 engines?!
Ju-390 had 6
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2008, 06:30:57 PM »
Quote from: humble on September 19, 2008, 05:17:37 PM

LOL this shows just how totally ignorant some of you are. The MP44 was actually developed in response to the soviet PPsh-41. It is an exceptional and revolutionary weapon and is the 1st true assault rifle (vs a submachinegun or automatic rifle). It has nothing in common (beyond the concept) with the AK-47. A tremendous amount of academic exchange occurred in the 1930's....we see revolutionary advances incorporated by nations while the originating nation ignored it (Christie suspension to name one). Many of the German aviation concepts actually come from external or academic sources which inspired competing technologies (biggest would be the atomic bomb). The concept of the jet engine predates WW2 and every major power had a jet engine program of some kind by 1941.
Yep. Kalashnikov himself said that the AK47 was not based on the StG44.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2008, 06:31:07 PM »
Yeah probably specially made though.
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Re: Rare United States Aircraft
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2008, 06:35:48 PM »
Rpg panzer?
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