Author Topic: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models  (Read 2603 times)

Offline Engine

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2008, 12:55:07 PM »
Much like external view, isn't this a game concession to the fact that these birds are crewed by more than one person?

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2008, 12:59:44 PM »
And how about how "realistic" it is to look backwards, down, and move to the nose so that you're crouched down by your rudder pedals looking under your own seat? You can do that in a NUMBER of first-generation planes.

I'm not sure why Widewing is getting so upset at my comment. It's obvious the first-generation models do not adhere to the more realistic limitations of later models. I'm not making a comment on WHICH limitations are perfect, only that the first generation includes a number of flawed ones.


Again, I'm not saying the new F6F is "right" -- I'm saying maybe part of the old F6F (as on some other models of the F6F's age) was "wrong" and thus the motivation for a change on HTCs part.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2008, 01:07:11 PM »
Krusty is right.  In some aircraft you can move your head outside the canopy.

I'd like to see a fix so that you can't use the mouse as a gunsight with the over-the-nose view in aircraft like the N1k and Mossie.
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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2008, 01:52:56 PM »
Anaxo, that's a non-issue. Doesn't affect the view at all if you have a mouse cursor or not.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2008, 01:55:44 PM »
True, it's the other way around: the views affect the ability to rig a second gunsight that's just as accurate as the regular gunsight but in a totally different, yet more effective, place.
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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2008, 02:02:34 PM »
Uh, dude, that's an inexperienced comment, and you're blowing it out of proportion. Regardless of whether you can put your mouse in a place or not, you can still shoot at that spot. The ONLY time this "raise the view to look over the nose" is valuable is close-range turns with the target passing just under your nose -- in which case it's JUST as effective to estimate position and pull the trigger.

It makes not ONE iota of difference if the mouse is there or not.

Some folks turn their throttle of in mid-fight too! *gasp*! <insert oldrolleyes here>

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2008, 02:47:18 PM »
    Cutting the views down simply reduce the chance you'll see the picker coming. Then we have a pick war, and nobody fights unless they sneak up on the baddie.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2008, 03:28:28 PM »
Much like external view, isn't this a game concession to the fact that these birds are crewed by more than one person?

You won't get an answer to that Engine ... simple because that probably is the exact reason why, in a two-seater, you can actually slide over to see what the heck to going on ... there is no co-pilot to tell you what is going on outside that side of the plane.
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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2008, 04:19:20 PM »
I don't think it relates to the F3 view. That is only the case with bombers, not fighters.

If you can slide all over, then why does the Mossie limit you to one side of the very spacious cockpit? Why does the lancaster limit you to one side as well? Why does any turret position on a heavy bomber limit you to the insides of the turret?

I think the excessive headroom on some early planes is simply an oversight. A decision at the time that was changed at a later date, but the early work never updated.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2008, 07:38:55 PM »
I'd like to see a fix so that you can't use the mouse as a gunsight with the over-the-nose view in aircraft like the N1k and Mossie.
You can't do it in any of the updated aircraft. You could do it in the older ones because you can shift your view around seemingly in any space inside the cockpit, but in updated aircraft you're limited by other factors and it's much more realistic... IIRC the most you can shift the NIKJ's view up still keeps the center of the gunsight on the glass.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #25 on: September 23, 2008, 08:29:23 PM »
Dunno what you ladies are getting your knickers in a knot over tbh. I use the default head position in every single aircraft and use my X45 rocket to 'lean' left/right.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2008, 10:26:47 AM »
It's been broadened for the next patch.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2008, 11:04:16 AM »
TY Pyro.
I edit a lot of my posts.  Get used to it.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2008, 11:08:01 AM »
Pyro,

Thanks very much sir.

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Re: Field of View bug in the 4 new ac models
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2008, 12:28:49 PM »
Thanks for the quick response.

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