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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 12:45:00 AM »
ok...how about the ones that were actually passed ..not just the ones that were written by his aides

LOL lets see the messiahs first .
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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2008, 12:45:16 AM »
ok...how about the ones that were actually passed ..not just the ones that were written by his aides

Man, talk about an empty suit  :huh
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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2008, 01:11:01 AM »
Man, talk about an empty suit  :huh

?... just asked for the ones that were passed in 20 years that he authored
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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2008, 09:39:53 AM »
Would you have preferred a traitor who makes a habit of insulting our military personnel?  A traitor who stabbed in the back the very soldiers and sailors he served with as soon as he got home? 
Would you have preferred to vote for a traitor who was the only brownwater sailor during the whole Viet Nam war who took the option of coming home after 3 (very questionably earned) purple hearts?  A traitor who "had a plan" for everything but couldn't explain any of them?  Yeah, the most elitist liberal jerk with an abysmal voting record in Congress?

There's a lot to be critical of Kerry, but his military service is not.

BTW, where and when were you fighting for this country (other than O'Club flame wars)?

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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2008, 10:29:07 AM »
LOL lets see the messiahs first .

no...lets see the guys who has been in the senate for 20 years first

Plus you should probably quit calling him your messiah...

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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2008, 10:39:30 AM »
There's a lot to be critical of Kerry, but his military service is not.

BTW, where and when were you fighting for this country (other than O'Club flame wars)?

Yes, his military service is something to be critical of, as was his treatment of our servicemen in the press and in testimony before congress when he returned where he basically accused the US troops wholesale of torture, rape, murder of innocent people.  He served less than half a tour, got himself awarded three very questionable purple hearts (I think one was a self-inflicted wound), and was the only brown water sailor of the whole war to use that to leave the combat zone and go home.  Following that, he made a big public deal about throwing his medals over a fence in front of the capitol.  Yeah, got him some publicity at the time.  Then when running for the presidency, he was asked about that act, and he decided it was time to expose himself for the lieing phoney he is or was, he said "ahhh, they weren't my medals, they belonged to other guys".  So, which act do you honor, throwing away his own medals, or lieing and later saying it was others medals and he was lieing back then?

I was never in the military, never claimed I was.  Doesn't mean I can't spot and despise a phoney who was a traitor to the brave men who stayed, fought and died.  He ran like a coward, they stayed and showed the guts and moral fortitude he lacked.
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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 11:31:01 AM »
LOL lets see the messiahs first .

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2008, 11:38:14 AM »
Here ya go:

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:O Wow.... all that...impressive. :rofl
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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2008, 11:41:02 AM »
i did not see his involvement in ACORN and voter fraud on the list.

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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2008, 01:21:41 PM »
no...lets see the guys who has been in the senate for 20 years first

Plus you should probably quit calling him your messiah...



We're suppose to listen to people who voted a train wreck into office>>> twice? LOL I so think not. 

Mother Goose told great stories too.

Can you say "white knuckle death grip on party,.. in spite of facts"? Sure I knew you could :)

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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2008, 01:40:54 PM »
as was his treatment of our servicemen in the press and in testimony before congress when he returned where he basically accused the US troops wholesale of torture, rape, murder of innocent people.
:rofl  Blame the messenger, not the message.

My Lai
Tiger Force
Coy Allegation
Song Ve Valley and Operation Wheeler

the routine torture and execution of prisoners[8]
the routine practice of intentionally killing unarmed Vietnamese villagers including men, women, children, and elderly people[9]
the routine practice of cutting off and collecting the ears of victims[10]
the practice of wearing necklaces composed of human ears[11]
the practice of cutting off and collecting the scalps of victims[12]
an incident where a young mother was drugged, raped, and then executed[13]
an incident where a soldier killed a baby and cut off it's head after the baby's mother was killed[14]
 
Tiger Force on 9-mile march ending Operation Hawthorne in 1966The investigators concluded that many of the war crimes indeed took place.[15] Despite this, the Army decided not to pursue any prosecutions.[16]


        "WITNESS: “Thirty seconds after the shooting stopped, I knew that I was going to do something about it,” said Jamie Henry, who saw many civilians killed.

Declassified papers show U.S. atrocities went far beyond My Lai.

The men of B Company were in a dangerous state of mind. They had lost five men in a firefight the day before. The morning of Feb. 8, 1968, brought unwelcome orders to resume their sweep of the countryside, a green patchwork of rice paddies along Vietnam's central coast.

They met no resistance as they entered a nondescript settlement in Quang Nam province. So Jamie Henry, a 20-year-old medic, set his rifle down in a hut, unfastened his bandoliers and lighted a cigarette.

Just then, the voice of a lieutenant crackled across the radio. He reported that he had rounded up 19 civilians, and wanted to know what to do with them. Henry later recalled the company commander's response:

Kill anything that moves.

Henry stepped outside the hut and saw a small crowd of women and children. Then the shooting began.


Moments later, the 19 villagers lay dead or dying.

Back home in California, Henry published an account of the slaughter and held a news conference to air his allegations. Yet he and other Vietnam veterans who spoke out about war crimes were branded traitors and fabricators. No one was ever prosecuted for the massacre.

Now, nearly 40 years later, declassified Army files show that Henry was telling the truth — about the Feb. 8 killings and a series of other atrocities by the men of B Company.

The files are part of a once-secret archive, assembled by a Pentagon task force in the early 1970s, that shows that confirmed atrocities by U.S. forces in Vietnam were more extensive than was previously known."

I duess this fella James, is also unpatriotic for "telling the truth", or unpatriotic for "doing the right thing".????







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Re: Palin Haters
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2008, 02:17:12 PM »
:rofl  Blame the messenger, not the message.

My Lai
Tiger Force
Coy Allegation
Song Ve Valley and Operation Wheeler

the routine torture and execution of prisoners[8]
the routine practice of intentionally killing unarmed Vietnamese villagers including men, women, children, and elderly people[9]
the routine practice of cutting off and collecting the ears of victims[10]
the practice of wearing necklaces composed of human ears[11]
the practice of cutting off and collecting the scalps of victims[12]
an incident where a young mother was drugged, raped, and then executed[13]
an incident where a soldier killed a baby and cut off it's head after the baby's mother was killed[14]
 
Tiger Force on 9-mile march ending Operation Hawthorne in 1966The investigators concluded that many of the war crimes indeed took place.[15] Despite this, the Army decided not to pursue any prosecutions.[16]


        "WITNESS: “Thirty seconds after the shooting stopped, I knew that I was going to do something about it,” said Jamie Henry, who saw many civilians killed.

Declassified papers show U.S. atrocities went far beyond My Lai.

The men of B Company were in a dangerous state of mind. They had lost five men in a firefight the day before. The morning of Feb. 8, 1968, brought unwelcome orders to resume their sweep of the countryside, a green patchwork of rice paddies along Vietnam's central coast.

They met no resistance as they entered a nondescript settlement in Quang Nam province. So Jamie Henry, a 20-year-old medic, set his rifle down in a hut, unfastened his bandoliers and lighted a cigarette.

Just then, the voice of a lieutenant crackled across the radio. He reported that he had rounded up 19 civilians, and wanted to know what to do with them. Henry later recalled the company commander's response:

Kill anything that moves.

Henry stepped outside the hut and saw a small crowd of women and children. Then the shooting began.


Moments later, the 19 villagers lay dead or dying.

Back home in California, Henry published an account of the slaughter and held a news conference to air his allegations. Yet he and other Vietnam veterans who spoke out about war crimes were branded traitors and fabricators. No one was ever prosecuted for the massacre.

Now, nearly 40 years later, declassified Army files show that Henry was telling the truth — about the Feb. 8 killings and a series of other atrocities by the men of B Company.

The files are part of a once-secret archive, assembled by a Pentagon task force in the early 1970s, that shows that confirmed atrocities by U.S. forces in Vietnam were more extensive than was previously known."

I duess this fella James, is also unpatriotic for "telling the truth", or unpatriotic for "doing the right thing".????

So, I guess you think in less than half a tour on a boat, Kerry was witness to all this?  Or do you think he listened to rumors and spouted it as fact?

Do you think all the soldiers in the 10 years we were there did this?  (If you do, you are an idiot)

What you list were very isolated and rare instances, but Kerry painted it as if it was commonplace.  To do so was an extreme disservice to the good men who served there.

I am pretty sure I am safe in saying, Kerry didn't witness any of these types of incidents. 
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« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2008, 03:28:06 PM »
Wow ~ why is that funny?
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2008, 03:40:12 PM »
Kerry is the guy that put George Bush into his second term.  The left should hate Kerry  :rofl
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« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2008, 03:52:57 PM »
I was with the 9th Infantry, Riverine, doing S&E for the PBR's, occasionally having to go recover swifts and whalers the squids beached or lost. The guy was a grandstanding twit, violated every known engagement and support SOP and put others at risk routinely in his pursuit of glory. I spent 9 long months there cleaning up after arsehat salamanders just like him.

He shoulda stopped a bullet. What he did after the war earns him as much respect from most vets as Hanoi Jane did.

I wouldn't elect him dog catcher.
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