Corporations Don't Pay Taxes

[Chalenge]

The taxes are just one of the bad things about the messiah but with the system already depressed and reeling the messiahs plans will destroy all chance of recovery.

[Urchin]

Baaaaaaaa!  Baaaaaaaaaa!

[bj229r]

LOL, Hang.. I didn't say I was voting for him.. I was pointing out the behaviour of the Republican sheeple here on the BBS.

I'm not sure what the other sheeples think, but the fact that I MAY not be getting a tax increase doesn't make ME think it's any less wrong. Class envy/jealousy isn't the way to base an economic model

[Chalenge]

Your group identity has firmly been established and its not 'shepard.' 

[lasersailor184]

Wealth redistribution has been policy in this country for the past 30 years.  It isn't an accident that the top 1% of earners have seen their incomes almost triple since the 70s.

140 years.  Ever since Abraham Lincoln has a stratafied income tax system been in place.  Hell, they even changed the constitution to make it EASIER for them to spend it on what they want.

[Nwbie]

No, it will not- it will increase taxes on those individuals making over 250k a year. Remember, taxable income and gross income are two different things- my small mom and pop business will do close to 200k this year, which is my gross, yet my taxable income will be about 48k after writing off business expenses. From my personal position on the tax ladder I'd benefit financially under Obama's proposal more than McCain's, and I'm betting that's true for 98% of everyone who posts here.

Do't bother Carrel
This has been pointed out in several threads already--take away this and all you have left is Obama is a terrorist threads

[Bronk]

take away this and all you have left is Obama is a terrorist threads

Psst... no he's friendly with a known terrorist. Nice spin though.

[Dago]

Psst... no he's friendly with a known terrorist. Nice spin though.

For the liberals and demodorks, spin is all they have, they can't risk the truth being exposed.  Destroys all the really cool soundbites they count on to sway peoples emotions.  Can't do it with rational arguments.

[Carrel]

For the liberals and demodorks, spin is all they have, they can't risk the truth being exposed.  Destroys all the really cool soundbites they count on to sway peoples emotions.  Can't do it with rational arguments.

I thought this was a rational argument, Dago- we were talking about the Obama vs. McCain tax plan, and which one actually lowers taxes, by how much and for whom. It can continue to be rational or people can throw out phrases like "demodork" and make the thread just one more exercise in name calling and insult trading...the only reason I could imagine someone doing that is because that's all they have in their arsenal.

[Dago]

I thought this was a rational argument, Dago- we were talking about the Obama vs. McCain tax plan, and which one actually lowers taxes, by how much and for whom. It can continue to be rational or people can throw out phrases like "demodork" and make the thread just one more exercise in name calling and insult trading...the only reason I could imagine someone doing that is because that's all they have in their arsenal.

And yet you ignore Nwbie's post.  Convenient?

[Chalenge]

Jealosy? Coveting what the rich have? Its not a hard concept to grasp. They give a tax cut to the people that pay the most taxes (the upper income earners) so that they can in turn use more of that money to hire more people or spend it otherwise and push the economy up. Yes they will make more money that way. They are not the lower income class that spends money foolishly or they wouldnt make so much and therefore pay so much in taxes. With the last round of tax cuts no one rushed out to buy a Lamberti I can tell you that!

[alskahawk]

 Ya and all those big bonus' are taxfree too.

[Chalenge]

The giant mega-corps are just stupid offering those bonuses and retirement packages to CEOs I agree there. The majority of millionares in this country are developers and independant contractors though and lumping them with 'windfall executives' is just wrong. Most of them get there through hard work and much sweat and the vast majority drive Ford F150s not hummers or limos.

[alskahawk]

The giant mega-corps are just stupid offering those bonuses and retirement packages to CEOs I agree there. The majority of millionares in this country are developers and independant contractors though and lumping them with 'windfall executives' is just wrong. Most of them get there through hard work and much sweat and the vast majority drive Ford F150s not hummers or limos.

 Yup an most of them get there dealing face to face w/ thier customers building good rep's, working hard and doing it w/ethics

[DREDIOCK]

Do't bother Carrel
This has been pointed out in several threads already--take away this and all you have left is Obama is a terrorist threads

I've repeatedly said I'm not for either candidate.
UNLIKE most here Im not taking either at their word.
But..
Lets see,
To back up his point he points to a for profit Newspaper.

To back myself up I point to a study done by the Brookings Institution

"The Brookings Institution is a nonprofit public policy organization based in Washington, DC. Our mission is to conduct high-quality, independent research and, based on that research, to provide innovative, practical recommendations that advance three broad goals:

    * Strengthen American democracy;
    * Foster the economic and social welfare, security and opportunity of all Americans and
    * Secure a more open, safe, prosperous and cooperative international system
Research at the Brookings Institution is conducted to inform the public debate, not advance a political agenda. Our scholars are drawn from the United States and abroad—with experience in government and academia—and hold diverse points of view. Brookings's goal is to provide high-quality analysis and recommendations for decision-makers in the U.S. and abroad on the full range of challenges facing an increasingly interdependent world."

Sorry but I'll trust the word of The tax policy center & The Brookings Institution over that of either candidate or a second rate newspaper.