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Offline bustr

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Re: Fairness Doctrine?
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2008, 09:16:03 PM »
Fairness Docrtrine

Six Liberals and one conservitive voteing on which show Hosts use the dead microphones by LAW on the air each day or be cited by the FCC.

Ooops, sorry those Hosts all got fired for not bringing in listeners and advatisers because no one heard their message.
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This is like the old joke that voters are harsher to their beer brewer if he has an outage, than their politicians after raising their taxes. Death and taxes are certain but, fun and sex is only now.

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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2008, 09:21:56 PM »
I don't see how forcing privately owned broadcast stations to present opposing "political viewpoints" equates to protecting "freedom of speech."

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« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2008, 09:46:14 PM »
I don't see how forcing privately owned broadcast stations to present opposing "political viewpoints" equates to protecting "freedom of speech."

The argument is that the the airwaves are public.

Weak argument if you ask me....let the market determine which shows succeed and which fail.

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« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2008, 10:07:05 PM »
Damnit, Arlo was png'd wasn't he?

No.

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« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2008, 10:36:21 PM »
I notice that some radio stations broadcast Sunday morning church services. In the interest of balance, they should be required to allow some Satan worshipers to state their side of things.

Also, for every hour of Rock music that is broadcast, they must broadcast an hour of some 80 year old man saying "This music is crap! It only has 3 chords! Why in my day, we had Glen Miller..."


Dont have a problem with Satan Worshipers  they just try to kill you.  they dont bore you to death trying to convert you and telling you that you are going to hell :)

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« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2008, 10:41:43 PM »
Things were better when we had the fairness doctrine.

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« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2008, 10:47:17 PM »

Dont have a problem with Satan Worshipers  they just try to kill you.  they dont bore you to death trying to convert you and telling you that you are going to hell :)

Mainstream Satanism is actually a let down. Their tenets read more like the Libertarian party's than anything else. Things like "Don't waste kindness on ingrates." Ooh. Eeeeeeeeeeeeevil.  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2008, 10:48:28 PM »
Things were better when we had the fairness doctrine.

The practical impossibility of actually presenting all opinions by itself makes fairness doctrine a farce.

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« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2008, 10:52:07 PM »
Things were better when we had the fairness doctrine.
Lol until then, conservatives had to meet in dingy bars and basements...always changing locations so the MAN wouldn't catch :) them
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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2008, 01:49:55 AM »
Things were better when we had the fairness doctrine.

MT,

Without government forcing the free market to shoot themselves in the foot, Liberal talk shows don't have the listener base nor the advertiser base. Liberal talk shows as competitive enterprises are not listened to, loose advertisers like a hole in a bucket and fail unless heavily under written with either money from Soros or taxpayer funds that 100% are used for liberal agendas on NPR, not across all points of view as the federal mandaite for operation requires. Liberal radio ratings are lower than barnicles on sunken ships in the Marianahs trench.

So its unfair that you Liberals cannot sell the majority of American listeners in plain language on your ideas in a free market open competitive setting? You guys are failing to sell your ideas, not the system failing to bring you listeners. Why do grown American adults choose to turn Liberal radio off as a free speach choice? What are Liberals selling that smells so bad American adults turn your radio stations off and advertisers run away from you?

Common MT tell us why Liberal radio fails with the majority of American listeners......remember econ 101...to succeed you need a message and a product your audience agrees with or is looking for over all other competing products. Why does your message fail every single time it competes in the free market?

1. Tell us the truth without saying the majority of adults in america are stooopid.
2. Call me names and change the subject.
3. Wimp out and not answer because the real answer is obvious by the peoples choice of what they want to listen to.
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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2008, 08:21:09 AM »
What about satellite radio?  They're not using any of the public's precious bandwidth.  Would they still be required to offer opposing viewpoints?  Would they have to on each channel?  Right now Sirius has "Patriot" (right wing) and "Left" (left wing) channels.  Would that be considered offering opposing viewpoints?  What if people just choose not to listen?  If there's 350k people listening to the righty channel, and only 100k listening to the lefty channel, is the opposing viewpoint being properly stated?  Could they be sued because by looking at ratings it's obvious that Sirius "just isn't trying very hard" to offer opposing viewpoints?

Am I the only one who can see what kind of a ridiculous quagmire this stupid law would create?  Does anyone know whose idea it was to try to resurrect this absolutely moronic attempt to squelch free speech?  Shouldn't this person or these people be fired and ridiculed?

And to the left-wing members of this forum that are avoiding this thread like the plague; your silence speaks volumes.

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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2008, 08:27:05 AM »
YES!!!
 I would love the Fairness Docrtrine. The I could watch CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, Fox and the other leftwing/rightwing news people when they would have to let the other side talk on how good ther eparty is. It would be a blast! They all would be in tears.

Fair Media? Never going to happen. This is another waist of time. Besides someone is going to put a rider on the bill for something stupid and the Pres will have to veto it or the Congress will let it die.

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« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2008, 08:34:52 AM »
 My biggest problem with right wing radio is,  it gets broadcast on armed forces radio.  Most hosts, Rush, Sean, will tell you they are not news casters but are in the entertainment business.  I do not support the Fairness Doctrine,  if you don't want to listen, then don't tune in.

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« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2008, 09:05:28 AM »
As much as some of you may not like it, so called liberalism does pretty well in the market place of ideas in this country, but just not through the medium of talk radio.  Most liberals would listen to public radio, read a magazine, a website or a blog long before they would tune into a liberal AM talk radio program.  It's just the format itself that doesn't work.  Talk radio is full of bombast, one-sided skewering and advertisements, not to mention the overdone voice with musical overlay that announces the show...followed by the ritualistic listener ankle-humping of the host.  No thanks.

Come to think of it, what's ironic about the fairness doctrine is that the very idea of talk-radio is not to give voice to the other side of an issue (if you disagree with the host, he can yell at you and hang up).  So we're going to have opposing viewpoint talk shows whose very purpose is to deny that the other has a right to exist.  Oh brother. :rolleyes:
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Re: Fairness Doctrine?
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2008, 02:59:11 PM »
anax.. you are somewhat correct.. NPR, despite their protests to the contrary.. is pretty far left.. it is supported by government and shameless drives and left wing sponsors.

It does not respect anyone unless they are a woman or have a brit accent or some kind of speech impediment.

It is painful to listen to and often.. you can listen for minutes at a time and realize that all you heard was a drone.   No matter how interesting the subject matter.. they can make it boring.

On the other hand... real liberal talk show type stations sound merely shrill and womanly.. 

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