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Offline Clutz

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Please help
« on: September 25, 2008, 02:54:30 AM »
Maybe nobody can help me, but I hope so. This is why I am posting in help section.  I am posting because I think I may say good by to the game and I really don't want to, but I can't make myself play anymore either.

At first. I just loved being in the air flying around. Then I studied and learned from all the best here. Films, teaching, old stick fighters, DA guys, etc etc. Trouble is, I can't make myself play the game anymore.

I am sad about this. I love a good fight. I love to fight two, three, or even four, depending. But, flying out sucks. Reading the map sucks. Often,  I fly out, and by the time I get there it's 10 green guys chasing 1 red guy or 10 red guys chasing me. I hate it when I fly out, get a fight with a really good pilot, or two, then while that is going on, 3 turds fly in and wipe me out. Check your SA your say? Yeah, uah huah! My hands are full fighting two great pilots. No time to "SA" three dweebs 10K above me.

I'm dead. Back to the map, usually more wasted time flying out. Back to the map. Sit there for 10 mins looking at it again to try to find something else to do. Fly out and its 10 red guys chasing me or 10 green guys chasing a red guy. Back to the map. Oh wait! I think there is two red guys I can get to chase me around in my dweeb spit. Fly out again. Oh dang it. It is a bomber at 20k and a dweeb that wants to run me back to his base so he can  try run me into his base ack. Fly back to my base. Back to the map. Fly out gain  The sun is blistering in my eyes. That ain't no fun, it's just painful.

Blah Blah Blah, rinse and repeat. I'm sick of it, and I hate that, because I still really want to fight my airplane. Actually, I guess I am just about so bitter about the game as a whole, I don't even want to fight anymore. I guess I am just saying good by and that is sad for me. All my old friends have gone, one by one, they are all gone.

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Re: Please help
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2008, 03:57:08 AM »
First off, playing in the DA is NOT Aces High. If you haven't even flown a tour in Mid war or latewar you have no real concept of what AH is all about. If your still learning AH and still working on mastering planes you need to give it at least an hour a day or the equivalent. Part of that time reading and learning, part in the TA working on specifics, and part in the main learning to put it into practice.

Second, SA takes time, practice to get proficient at.  Even old AH vets have SA problems. Its often more something we struggle with rather than something we master. Like the morning traffic, some days are better than others.

Third, come to the training arena and really LEARN tactics other than HO, and horde.
Some time spent reading on the trainers site will also help.

Last, Aces High in large part gives back directly proportional to what you give it.
Friends, squad mates, respected enemys, all are a part of the game that you won't for the most part find in the DA.


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Re: Please help
« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2008, 04:39:41 AM »
Sounds to me like you need to find a good squad. I would have quit this game a long time ago with my squaddies.
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Re: Please help
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2008, 08:00:38 AM »
Find someone to wing with. Go to the MW arena and jump into the country with the least numbers. or the 2nd least amount of players. You'll find some decent fights.Meanwhile, follow Ghosth's advice.

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Re: Please help
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2008, 08:04:32 AM »
There's a lot this game has to offer beside just the MA/DA. Try a scenario or get involved with FSO, completely different experience. FSO is probably the only reason I still play, I'd imagine it'd get boring and monotonous without FSO to look forward to at the end of every week.

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Re: Please help
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2008, 08:58:26 AM »
First off, playing in the DA is NOT Aces High. If you haven't even flown a tour in Mid war or latewar you have no real concept of what AH is all about. If your still learning AH and still working on mastering planes you need to give it at least an hour a day or the equivalent. Part of that time reading and learning, part in the TA working on specifics, and part in the main learning to put it into practice.

Second, SA takes time, practice to get proficient at.  Even old AH vets have SA problems. Its often more something we struggle with rather than something we master. Like the morning traffic, some days are better than others.

Third, come to the training arena and really LEARN tactics other than HO, and horde.
Some time spent reading on the trainers site will also help.

Last, Aces High in large part gives back directly proportional to what you give it.
Friends, squad mates, respected enemys, all are a part of the game that you won't for the most part find in the DA.



As Ghosth stated here if you're learning AHII, give it some time. I'm well into my 2nd year of playing it, and I'm STILL learning! Working on getting better at SA, winning dogfights, and inproving my gunnery. The people who are "uber good" at the game are people who have been playing it since it came out, and flying flight sims for years!

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Re: Please help
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2008, 09:01:27 AM »
I've been playing religiously now for almost 2 years.  I went through those same feelings and had my "I quit" period.  It is a tough game but you have give it time and practice.  I agree with the other post get into a squad.  Some of my best times in AH have been flying around with squaddies hooting and hollering.   :aok   

Best of luck

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Re: Please help
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 09:04:42 AM »
Dude the people in this game are awfully supportive of people having problems in it.

But I read your post twice... :huh

Its just a game man. Have fun with it and who cares if you get shot down? Change up and then GV, or shoot CV guns, or haul supplies, or fly bombers. Geez, life is short. Relax.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2008, 10:13:47 AM by Rich46yo »
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Re: Please help
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 09:21:28 AM »
Been there.  I still feel that way some days.

I've found I prefer not to worry about my kills per hour.  I fly around the somewhat less populated parts of the arena and I don't care if it's fighters, bombers or jabos that i run into.  At least I'm not fighting the other Bish for a kill and I'm not getting ganged.  The match-ups are usually one or two on one.  I still do play attack and defense around larger crowds and furball a little just for variety.

To add a little spice to that I fly all the planes in the plane set (45+ so far this camp) and try to beat the arena averages for K/D in them.  I sit down wih a specific list of planes I'm planning on flying and then just take them up, regardless of the circumstances.  I was thrilled to land 3 kills in a Spit I a week or two ago and had big fun furballing in a Bf110G earlier this week.

Not sure if you like to GV but there's a lot of fun in defending V bases alone and there always seem to be one or two available to do that at.  If all else fails, I'll up my AR234's and go bomb something.  I even managed to kill my first CV from a shore battery a few weeks ago.

The key to this is that variety is the spice of life (and of AH).  If I find when I log on that I'm thinking "maybe I should just log back off" I also find that after a sortie or two I'm hooked for the next couple of hours.

Also, setting yourself some challenges to fulfill will keep you interested.  Last night I got a couple of kills in an M3.  Tonight I've got to get a couple of "make-up" kills in a Jeep (I lost against a Panzer last night  :furious).  Oh... and I might sortie the P-39's or P-40's tonight... not sure on that one yet... gotta save something for next camp :) .
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Re: Please help
« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2008, 10:02:04 AM »
I think there is two red guys I can get to chase me around in my dweeb spit.

If you're having trouble getting people to engage you in a fair fight, that might be half your problem.
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Re: Please help
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 10:27:28 AM »
First off, playing in the DA is NOT Aces High. If you haven't even flown a tour in Mid war or latewar you have no real concept of what AH is all about. If your still learning AH and still working on mastering planes you need to give it at least an hour a day or the equivalent. Part of that time reading and learning, part in the TA working on specifics, and part in the main learning to put it into practice.


I got the impression he was talking about the MA's.  If you're looking for a good 1v1, they're about the worst place to check.

If you want a good fight, Clutz, you have a few options:

1.  You can arrange a series of duels with an individual in the DA on a semi-private field (NOT the furball lake kiddie pool);
2.  You can fly in events like King of the Hill (KoTH); or
3.  You can fly around the MA's and places like AvA, but bewarned this approach will take some thought to figure out where you might have a fun fight, and even then most people will run from you, especially if you're in a plane that they know can fight (like the Spit).  If you choose this approach, let us know, and we can help you figure out ways to read the map to maximize your enjoyment.

I disagree with Ghosth in that I would recommend option #1, at least in terms of how many fights you can have in such few time.  However, he's absolutely correct about going to the TA and working with someone, regardless of what your skill level is.  This sometimes has a stigma of being "boring."  I assure you, it is not.  Many of the trainers (Texture and Widewing come immediately to mind) teach in large part by fighting.  Texture is usually found early US Evenings (7p.m.ish EST) whereas Widewing comes on a bit later.  Either (really any trainer), will give you all you could ever want to handle.

There are also a number of people who frequent the DA for the purpose of actually fighting and not just running around in a Tempest picking people off and landing kills for some unknown reason.  All you have to do is ask, "Would anyone like to duel?" and set one up.  You'll get your fight ;) :aok

If you're serious about wanting to fight, I hope you won't quit.  People like that are in short supply.

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Re: Please help
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 02:00:06 AM »
Not a real contribution to the thread, nevermind.
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Re: Please help
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 07:21:28 AM »
change your tactics, change your plane, change your game. And most importantly, find a good squad that'll watch your butt. :salute
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Re: Please help
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 12:20:19 PM »
Visit Mid War more often

In LW orange / blue, find a squad that sticks together with a goal in mind and not just fly around aimlessly. You don't have to join, just ask to join in fun if that is the problem.

Do more than just fly one plane and in one way. There are lots of things to do in AH. Try de-acking fields with rockets, GV bases, bomb targets, kill CV's, boom and zoom, furball,take bases, improve score, take part in any special event (Sunday Tank Klub, Snapshots, KOTH, FSO ECT.)...... lots of things to do

or stop your crying and find another game to play for awhile and come back later




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Re: Please help
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2008, 03:16:10 PM »
Thanks guys, I knew I could count on you all. This is why I posted in the help section. I am going to fly tonight. You all have re inspired me, at least a little bit for now, and this is good.  In the deepest part of my heart I have a love for this game that will never go away. I know this. I said the same thing kind of to my X-Wife during the divorce. :lol. Chin up. Time to kick some butt.  Maybe find one or two of those nit wit thorn in the side 38 guys that fly vertical so well and have some fun. <S>

Oh yes, thanks to everyone one for not turning this thread into a how the game should be made thread. Those threads suck real bad. Once again, Ty, and <S>

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