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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2008, 06:31:21 PM »
Ok, everyone's making attacks but no one is putting up well thought out argument why Obama will lose.

Obama will lose because the closet racist dems that cannot pull the lever for a black guy greatly outnumber the blacks inspired by him to vote.  Blacks are the only minority who will vote for him because he's a minority.  They have smugly written off states like Michigan that have loyally towed the party line since forever.  The fact is that they have been asked up until now to tow the party line for old white men.

I'll say it again:  November has the potential to be so lopsided that it could in fact be the beginning of the revolution that laser dreams about daily.

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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2008, 06:39:53 PM »
Ok, everyone's making attacks but no one is putting up well thought out argument why Obama will lose.

Gallup estimated that Obama loses about 6% nationally to straight up racism. I don't have my source handy on that, but I can find it if you want to call me out on it.

Nobody checks "cause he's a blackie" on the poll that says 'Reasons why you wouldn't vote for Obama'. So it must be inferred by voters who voted Democratic for candidates with similar policies but don't vote for Obama now.

I can cite a university study that shows Ohio in 2004 went Kerry. That when you factored various polling techniques, and controlled for bias error, Kerry should still have won - but didn't. Conclusion: the race was stolen.

In 4 years, the Republicans have gotten even better at vote stealing. Diebold machines cheating tricks harder to detect.

The best thing to have happen is large numbers of Republicans stay home, because they didn't really want McCain to start with. But Palin fixes much of that - she will bring out the evangelicals. And they are powerful, because they don't just bring themselves - they drag alot of independents in their churches to their side.

Obama will have to win Ohio by 10 points in reality, to squeek out a tabulated 1 point victory. And he's not winning by that much.

Michigan is a dead heat, which is amazing. Kilpatrick is in jail, Detroit has lost 600,000 residents since 2004. They can't hold Michigan, the west side evangelicals just love the moose lady.

Biden doesn't bring toejam. He was meant to shore up independents nationally on the experience issue of foreign policy. Evan Bayh wasn't going to bring Indiana with him, and they felt they had Virginia already.

McCain has it. Palin will go down in history as the housewife with the 105-IQ who became president, if he kicks off in office. And at his age, that is about a 15% chance.

It's terrifying, but the first thing she will do is choose Dick Cheney as Veep, and we'll be back to what we have.








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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2008, 07:09:37 PM »
I'm sorry, I couldn't get past the first paragraph.

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Ben Franklin, one of America's best known Aristocrats, dons a fur cap and THIS ISN'T SEEN AS PANDERING?

Is this guy a moron?
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2008, 08:28:04 PM »
1. wont put hand over heart... he shouldent even be able to run cause of that
2. is dumb
3. wants 2 take guns out of homes

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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2008, 08:34:03 PM »
Ok, everyone's making attacks but no one is putting up well thought out argument why Obama will lose.

Big ears. Middle Name. Skin Color. Arab Ancestry. Terrorist Pal. Felon Fundraiser. Racist Preacher. Wife that hates America. Anything else offered would be just spin.
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2008, 09:21:29 PM »
Ok, everyone's making attacks but no one is putting up well thought out argument why Obama will lose.

Because he's Obama, that's why.






If you want specifics:
He will get less electoral votes than McCain.

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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2008, 10:13:10 PM »
Gallup estimated that Obama loses about 6% nationally to straight up racism. I don't have my source handy on that, but I can find it if you want to call me out on it.

Nobody checks "cause he's a blackie" on the poll that says 'Reasons why you wouldn't vote for Obama'. So it must be inferred by voters who voted Democratic for candidates with similar policies but don't vote for Obama now.

I can cite a university study that shows Ohio in 2004 went Kerry. That when you factored various polling techniques, and controlled for bias error, Kerry should still have won - but didn't. Conclusion: the race was stolen.

In 4 years, the Republicans have gotten even better at vote stealing. Diebold machines cheating tricks harder to detect.

The best thing to have happen is large numbers of Republicans stay home, because they didn't really want McCain to start with. But Palin fixes much of that - she will bring out the evangelicals. And they are powerful, because they don't just bring themselves - they drag alot of independents in their churches to their side.

Obama will have to win Ohio by 10 points in reality, to squeek out a tabulated 1 point victory. And he's not winning by that much.

Michigan is a dead heat, which is amazing. Kilpatrick is in jail, Detroit has lost 600,000 residents since 2004. They can't hold Michigan, the west side evangelicals just love the moose lady.

Biden doesn't bring poop. He was meant to shore up independents nationally on the experience issue of foreign policy. Evan Bayh wasn't going to bring Indiana with him, and they felt they had Virginia already.

McCain has it. Palin will go down in history as the housewife with the 105-IQ who became president, if he kicks off in office. And at his age, that is about a 15% chance.

It's terrifying, but the first thing she will do is choose Dick Cheney as Veep, and we'll be back to what we have.


Are you serious? Or just that stupid? Al Gore lost in 2000 because the voter fraud people were too stupid to actualy read the name on the ballot. John Kerry was an all around idiot, everyone knew Kerry was going to lose. If you say Palin is smart, then Kerry is a retard if you want to compare.

Everyone in my family knew Kerry was going to lose too. Sad... Quit watching NBC.
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #22 on: September 26, 2008, 03:31:24 AM »
This is an editorial opinion peice, Wrag. Take it with at least a grain of salt.

Hey!!!

You didn't notice the 3 question marks in the thread title?

Question marks that are NOT part of the original piece?

The 3 question marks that I PUT THERE?

Take it as a grain of salt?

I am....

been looking at voting records and such and Obama is NOT getting my vote.

Got to say something here....

Something isn't quite right about Obama.

The BIG MEDIA is giving him a pass on way too many things.

Not sure McCain is gonna get it either.

Watched that Ron Paul discussion with the Fox News guys and heard something said that has been my opinion for some time.

Paul said that they are both a PART of the same special interest group?

I believe it!  That has been my opinion for a very long time now.

We are getting a dog and pony show meant to distract us while the REAL stuff that is going on is probably MUCH DIFFERENT.

Can't get a link on it as it's a video.
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2008, 03:38:41 AM »
Why do we pledge allegiance to a flag? I always thought it would be better if it went like this:

"I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America".  Not the Governement. Not a silly piece of cloth.  But to other American citizens.

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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2008, 05:01:00 AM »
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #25 on: September 26, 2008, 07:18:04 AM »
can you say landslide?

http://www.democratandchronicle.com/article/20080925/NEWS01/80925009/1002/NEWS

I had to copy and paste this from the comments in the article that Eagler posted.  This guy nails it-

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Really getting tired of the Left claiming to be the "intelligent" party.
Last I checked, intelligent people don't fall for nonsense like this poser Obama.
Yet the supposed "intelligent" have swallowed snake-oil from Gore, Kerry, Edwards, Carter.
How can anyone feel a smug security in being "intelligentsia" when in fact they're a sucker for a typical tainted Chicago Democratic Machine politician?
You Dems are being played like flutes because a candidate is appealing to your intellectual vanity, and plying you with out-dated economic practices, proveably wrong social models?
Are you so spiritually desperate, you cling to the first messianic figure that quotes Marxist lunatic ideas?

That vanity by the way, pretty much forfeits your mensch membership application.

I thought y'all were supposed to be smart?

I think "intelligentsia" was originally used in a sarcastic way. Probably ought to seek maturation instead. Eh?

Can anyone explain this to me?

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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2008, 09:02:01 AM »
Why do we pledge allegiance to a flag? I always thought it would be better if it went like this:

"I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America".  Not the Governement. Not a silly piece of cloth.  But to other American citizens.

That silly piece of cloth is a national emblem.

I suspect pledging allegiance to the flag has it's roots back in the days when flags on a battlefield actually meant something to those fighting there.
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #27 on: September 29, 2008, 11:57:54 AM »
This mess is going to take 3 to 4 years minimum to stabalize, I would advise either candidate to tank the run ... let the other guy take the blame for the way it is handled during their administration.. and start campaigning next year
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #28 on: September 29, 2008, 01:23:10 PM »
This mess is going to take 3 to 4 years minimum to stabalize, I would advise either candidate to tank the run ... let the other guy take the blame for the way it is handled during their administration.. and start campaigning next year


I think thats what hillary is doing...Cod help us
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Re: Why Obama will lose???
« Reply #29 on: September 29, 2008, 01:33:17 PM »
Why do we pledge allegiance to a flag? I always thought it would be better if it went like this:

"I pledge allegiance to the people of the United States of America".  Not the Governement. Not a silly piece of cloth.  But to other American citizens.

Because that silly piece of cloth represents this country and everything this country stands for. Why the hell do you think it's drapped over the coffins of those who served this country and gave their very lives for it?

I swear to God, people that make statements like that should have their teeth punched out. There should be a law allowing it for anyone who ever proudly served under that flag.

You think it's a silly piece of cloth, then pack your bags and GET OUT!!!! No one will miss you.
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