Debate

[midnight Target]

McCain did well, but this debate was in his wheelhouse. I think Obama was edged overall on the substance, but looked much more relaxed and "presidential" than McCain. That difference might actually draw more voters than the substantive issues McCain was well versed on..

[trax1]

You obviously don't get to high level meetings with out having low level meetings first. Obama isn't saying he's gonna run right over to Iran and start blabbing away to the Supreme Leader. He said he would support talks with out pre conditions. I'll admit that Obama could have been more clear on that subject. That's one of the places I thought he fluttered and should have stuck it right back to McCain.

Exactly, it was kinda making me mad that McCain keep saying Obama wants to meet with them, when Obama himself right there keep saying it would start with low level meetings.

[Mr No Name]

McCain did well, but this debate was in his wheelhouse. I think Obama was edged overall on the substance, but looked much more relaxed and "presidential" than McCain. That difference might actually draw more voters than the substantive issues McCain was well versed on..

Pretty much in the way the 1960 JFK/Nixon debate went.  Those who saw it said JFK won, those who listened to it on radio said Nixon won.

[Hangtime]

Not really.. it's just a difference of who pays it. McCain is for cutting taxes to big oil by crazy amounts.. (you know those guys that are currently raking in record profits)  Obama on the other hand is for cutting taxes for the average person.

Disagree.. when pressed on what pet programs he'd give up in light of the crisis costs Obama waffled badly. McCain grabbed the initiative by going after the malfunctioning diseased alphabet soup agencies and getting rid of the ones that don't work and trimming the size and cost of government... bonus points for McCain.. Obama never even touched on the corrupt mess that government agencies have become. McCain came out of that exchange with the initiative.. and then the subject changed to foreign policy  

[crockett]

Exactly, it was kinda making me mad that McCain keep saying Obama wants to meet with them, when Obama himself right there keep saying it would start with low level meetings.

Yea IMO that was a mistake on Obama's part, he should have taken that point and shoved it right back over to Mccain's side of the court. He did do a good job by showing even Bush & Co had moved away from the "no talks" idealism. That's when he should have spiked the ball right back at McCain.

As far as McCain he totally fluttered on the whole spending issue, he sounded far too scripted by repeating the same thing, rather than give us "real" world examples of how he was going to cut all this spending. I'm sorry but claiming he's gonna veto everything is total BS.

[Mr No Name]

Exactly, it was kinda making me mad that McCain keep saying Obama wants to meet with them, when Obama himself right there keep saying it would start with low level meetings.

Fact is, Osamabama said that if he were president he would sit down with Castro, Amadinejad, Chavez, etc.  He blamed Bush not doing so for all of the worlds problems.

[A8TOOL]

He would sputter and call John, Tom. 

If he had given him the respect he deserves and called him Senator McCain instead of John all night that would not have happened.

[Holden McGroin]

Exactly, it was kinda making me mad that McCain keep saying Obama wants to meet with them, when Obama himself right there keep saying it would start with low level meetings.

The question that sparked the controversy at Monday's debate seemed simple enough: Would the candidates for president be willing to meet, within their first year in office, with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea?

Obama said yes, while Clinton said no, arguing that the president should only meet with world leaders who are hostile to the United States after lower-level diplomatic contacts are conducted.

[Hangtime]

Fact is, Osamabama said that if he were president he would sit down with Castro, Amadinejad, Chavez, etc.  He blamed Bush not doing so for all of the worlds problems.

Yup.. saw that exchange during the primary debates.. Obama was pinned down, asked if he would meet with ahmedstinkyshoes, Kim Jong Dong, Castro and Chavez without pre conditions face to face. He said YES. THATS what McCain was hammering him for.

[A8TOOL]

The difference between the two candidates is the difference between Saving and spending, experience preferred versus on the job training offered

[crockett]

Disagree.. when pressed on what pet programs he'd give up in light of the crisis costs Obama waffled badly. McCain grabbed the initiative by going after the malfunctioning diseased alphabet soup agencies and getting rid of the ones that don't work and trimming the size and cost of government... bonus points for McCain.. Obama never even touched on the corrupt mess that government agencies have become. McCain came out of that exchange with the initiative.. and then the subject changed to foreign policy  

Yea but McCain couldn't name anything either other than earmarks & that's only 18billion yet he claims he will cut 100's of billions. As I posted before the only way he can cut hundreds of billions is to cut defense spending and money going to Israel. Also McCain always talks about him wanting to stop sending money to people who don't like us. Yet then he turned around and said he wouldn't cut the money we are sending to Pakistan.

umm hell Pakistan is practically at war with us, they have shot at our helicopters twice now. If they like us, I'd hate to see who hates us. Not to mention McCain plans all these big cuts then plans 100's of millions of tax breaks for oil companies. Umm hello the oil companies have had record profits the last two years. How about giving people who actually need a tax break a cut.

[Kaw1000]

Obama slightly over McCain on economics...McCain wins on Military and foreign affairs by a landslid

Good debate!!

[Holden McGroin]

Yea but McCain couldn't name anything either other than earmarks & that's only 18billion yet he claims he will cut 100's of billions. As I posted before the only way he can cut hundreds of billions is to cut defense spending and money going to Israel.

For the fiscal year ending in September 30, 1997, the U.S. has given Israel $6.72 billion:

[Kaw1000]

I did'nt like that McCain  repeated some statements two or three times.

Ithought that Obama was wrong for saying wht he did about Pakastan and McCain let him have it.

[Flit]

Yea but McCain couldn't name anything either other than earmarks & that's only 18billion yet he claims he will cut 100's of billions. As I posted before the only way he can cut hundreds of billions is to cut defense spending and money going to Israel. Also McCain always talks about him wanting to stop sending money to people who don't like us. Yet then he turned around and said he wouldn't cut the money we are sending to Pakistan.

umm hell Pakistan is practically at war with us, they have shot at our helicopters twice now. If they like us, I'd hate to see who hates us. Not to mention McCain plans all these big cuts then plans 100's of millions of tax breaks for oil companies. Umm hello the oil companies have had record profits the last two years. How about giving people who actually need a tax break a cut.

Like who, the people who ain't paying any taxes ?