Author Topic: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.  (Read 1444 times)

Offline Elfie

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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #30 on: September 29, 2008, 12:30:59 AM »
Here's an internet petition against the bailout..

http://www.nowallstreetbailout.com/

Is that a valid petition?
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #31 on: September 29, 2008, 12:31:40 AM »
looks like a 'harvest' site.. gathers info for junk mail.
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #32 on: September 29, 2008, 12:24:47 PM »
looks like a 'harvest' site.. gathers info for junk mail.

Well here's a link to the organization behind it. It doesn't look like a harvest site to me...

http://www.freedomworks.org/

Follow the link to the petition from that site. After visiting the organization's site, Hangtime, do you think its a junk mail site? Think you would take even a cursorary look before blasting the petition a junk mail scam.
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2008, 12:37:38 PM »
I signed that and immediately got bombarded with spam E-Mails selling everything from Viagra to knock off watches to plastic Jesuses.

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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #34 on: September 29, 2008, 12:41:07 PM »
The bailout is not a party issue, it's cutting across party lines.

At moon on Monday, here's how the vote is shaping up for the plan released yesterday:

Twenty-eight Democrats come out to speak in support of the bill, 10 against. Eleven Republicans in favor, 26 against. Now, there's no reason to believe that that's in any particular way representative of those who didn't speak -- this is a self-selecting group who came to the floor. But if those numbers hold up across the parties, it's tight.

That represents just under 74% of Dems who have come to the floor speaking in support. 74% of the 235 Dems in the House would be 173 votes. Eleven of 37 Republicans = just under 30% of Republicans. That'd be 59 Republican votes, for a total of 232 votes, enough for passage, with room to spare.

IF YOU ARE AGAINST THE BAILOUT - the time to act is *right now*. You may wish to find out where your rep is on this issue, because party has nothing (or seemingly little) to do with it.


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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2008, 12:43:37 PM »
Well here's a link to the organization behind it. It doesn't look like a harvest site to me...

http://www.freedomworks.org/

Follow the link to the petition from that site. After visiting the organization's site, Hangtime, do you think its a junk mail site? Think you would take even a cursorary look before blasting the petition a junk mail scam.

I emailed my letters direct to my representatives and congresspeople. (thanks again, Toad) I don't want to be on some freaking nutball list.. I avoid intenet petitions, as a matter of course. I have no idea how the personal information harvested in those things can be held as secure, I reject 'labeling' created by getting into a database like that.. and hate the donation requests and polling calls that usually follow.

What you choose to do is up to you. I chose not to provide that kind of personal info to any website without legal recourse on what happens to the info provided.  :salute
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2008, 12:51:21 PM »
Actually the fat cats at the top are still getting huge salaries. Even if this does not pass. Of course that will have to dwindle in the future.

The ones who suffer most will be the loan industy and the folks who bought more than they could afford. As it should be......
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2008, 12:55:45 PM »
The bailout vote failed! Now we'll see if one of our candidates will man up again' it...whoever does gets my vote in November.

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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2008, 12:56:30 PM »
sheesh... paying for a war with a credit card and now the crying game when the bills come due.. crack me up... :rofl


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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2008, 02:13:12 PM »
Who's crying. We'll fix this but there's no way the Wall Streeters get off scot free. That's what the discussion is about.

Much to your dismay, Torque. We'll survive and get along quite well, thanks.

Guess that's good news for you. You'll still have that bitter envy thing going to keep you active.  :D
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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2008, 02:43:32 PM »
"wenching"?


"wenching"?


Like pirates...."Arg...bring on the hefty wenches"?

Arg?

"wenches"?





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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2008, 02:46:46 PM »
it's the BBS language 'filter'. It converts the word used to describe a female dog into 'wench'.

Oh, BTW.. thanks for the thoughtful contribution to the subject matter.

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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2008, 03:17:54 PM »
I signed that and immediately got bombarded with spam E-Mails selling everything from Viagra to knock off watches to plastic Jesuses.

I signed it and got nothing of the sort. Its a credible political organization. Its not a spam site. Care to share any evidence that its a spam site?

http://www.freedomworks.org/

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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2008, 03:34:40 PM »
OK...my bad.  Thank you hang  :salute sir for the clarification.  I just finally figured out what an attention potato is!  Had no idea it was the evil filter at work.

I think if they don't get together in a Bi-Partisan way and stop pointing fingers and instead get something put together to save our economy, we will end up in a bona fide depression within a fortnight.

If the Dems want the economy to fail just so they can point fingers and say "we told ya so" and have that be the overwhelming issue in the election, forsaking all others--especially national security...I hope they have to stand up individually and explain that to MILLIONS of people who will lose their entire retirement money (not to mention jobs)that they have been saving all of their lives that it was worth it.

If the Rep's don't get together and put forth a bill that doesn't reek of socialism--and cross the aisle to work hard and save the economy, then we are all screwed.  If you don't have all of your wealth in gold, you just might be selling pencils on the street because you, and 35 other million people will have lost their jobs.

It all seems like partism just might send the entire nation into depression, and that depression will be a world-wide tsunami of other countries into depression.  Then, we won't have all that extra cash to send to nations that hate us.

Don't get me wrong, I am a very staunch conservative, but the truckload of excrement has already hit the fan--it's a tad late to waste any time arguing who drove the truck the most.

I was gonna say it was just my own personal opinion, and my own $.02 cents...but as I watch the news...it's looking like that's my $.02 cents is now worth about $.0003 of a cent.




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Re: Quit wenching, do what you can on this bailout idea.
« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2008, 03:46:31 PM »
They really do reply, eh? (Or at least the aides do.)




Dear Mr. <edit>:

 

Thank you for contacting me regarding the current economic crisis facing our country and the legislation before Congress today.  I appreciate you taking the time to share your concerns with me.

 

We must act carefully and thoughtfully, and learn from the lessons that led us to this situation.  In the last eleven days, leaders on both sides of the aisle have worked hard and cooperatively to craft a plan that would gain bipartisan support.

 

Since the beginning, I've pushed for market reforms and strong taxpayer protections to be incorporated into this legislation.  We must use the leverage provided by the current crisis to make much-needed changes to the financial system. While the bill we voted on today was a vast improvement from the plan originally proposed by President Bush, it did not include enough reforms, nor strong enough protections for the taxpayer. Because this bill did not address these two issues, I voted against it. This bill failed by a vote of 205-228. However, Congressional leadership has indicated they will try and draft a new bill that can attract broader support.

 

I will continue to work with my colleagues in Congress to ensure that any proposed solutions address the fundamental issues that put us into this situation and strong protections for taxpayers.

 

Thank you again for sharing your concerns with me. Please continue to contact me on all issues of importance to you and to our district.

 

 

Sincerely,

MIKE THOMPSON
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