Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't

[Hangtime]

I found this to be interesting, I posted this in my squad forum, I am glad to share this with you here.  

Pay attention to the date of this article and what has happened up until now with the housing market.
 
Everyone was quick to blame the Bush administration for this when in fact it started with the DEM's and the Clinton faction.

OBAMA:As Far as his great idea's on the economy and a way out of the current crisis please read this Ny Times article of Sept 30, 1999 to see the roots of the problem and Obama advisors were involved it's inception.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260


For your added pleasure, feel free to read this educated idots view of "what will black people do if Obama isnt elected", rather lengthy but you will enjoy some of the reponses to this post, I never respond to such posts but I had too, enough was enough, you will find my response under Rich33, enjoy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-kennedy_28edi.ART.State.Edition1.26d93f3.html?ocp=1#slcgm_comments_anchor

Wow.. so the majority of black Americans support Obama because he looks more Black than White?

.... ergo; most blacks are racist?

I had no idea!

Hunh. I wonder how the majority of white democrats.. white folks that voted for him, would vote for him, AND put him on the top of their ticket would react to threats of a race riot reaction to his defeat in November?

LOL..

Sure an interesting development.. 'No Black Presidency, No Black Peace!!'. I'd think that even white democrats would be a bit annoyed that blacks would bite the hands that feed them . Or, is it vice versa?

ROFL!!.. this could be interesting indeed!

[Dago]

.... ergo; most blacks are racist?

I had no idea!

If you really had no idea, you are out of touch.  Most blacks are quite racist, though most would deny it, just as most whites really are racist, and again most would deny it.  The reality is, every race of people is made up primarily of racists.  Just human nature.

It's those who look past the natural tendancy to be racist and accept people as who they are that makes those persons special in mind and soul.

[WWhiskey]

I found it understandable because McCain was throwing out straw-man after straw-man, which is worthy of interruption in my book.

that must have been why Oboma kept agreeing with him, over and over!

[Donzo]

If this community did in fact represent the entire population, you would notice two major differences in America/Aces High:

• the Democrats would get far fewer electoral votes in the elections than they actually do
• Aces High would have a MUCH larger list of subscriptions, as most people would therefore be very interested in World War II aviation, and in flying WWII combat flight simulators.

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Yossarian

How do you know how big their subscription list is?

[FrodeMk3]

Now your just acting squealing stupid.

I don't need training to know when someone is interrupting someone else or calling someone Senator or by their first name.  Maybe you don't have the powers of basic observation given human beings at birth, but I am not missing that minor ability.   

You...did miss something. Here, I'll explain. BOTH the men in the Debate are Senators of the United States of America. Therefore, even though they belong to different parties, they are both still colleagues in the same field; And in most career fields' today, it is very often accepted practice for Colleagues' to use their first names. As a matter of fact, in many cases, resorting to honorifics is an attempt to distance yourself from someone by keeping all business entirely official...such as during a reprimand, or a fight for a(n) promotion at work. Also, Honorifics can be used to speak about someone in the Third person, even if they are in fact present for the conversation. When used in this way, It can (and often is) insulting. IMO, Obama using McCains' first name to refer to him was simply an act of politeness. McCain was the one being intentionally rude by adhering to honorifics...And also IMO, it shows' that McCain has a hard time dealing with people that he considers belligerent, by attempting to keep them distant as possible. It also helped keep his temper from flaring, and making him say something he would deeply wish he hadn't said later.

Don't worry, Dago...I won't charge you for the free training. 

[Hangtime]

Gotta love Washington..

The only place where 'My esteemed colleague' means 'that dirtbag corksucker'.

[Bronk]

Gotta love Washington..

The only place where 'My esteemed colleague' means 'that dirtbag corksucker'.

 

[FrodeMk3]

Gotta love Washington..

The only place where 'My esteemed colleague' means 'that dirtbag corksucker'.

When you put it that way...We need Everday American citizens to go into the House and Senate before each session and address all present with those same words. Because everyone in both Houses...Sucks. 

[Dago]

You...did miss something. Here, I'll explain. BOTH the men in the Debate are Senators of the United States of America. Therefore, even though they belong to different parties, they are both still colleagues in the same field; And in most career fields' today, it is very often accepted practice for Colleagues' to use their first names. As a matter of fact, in many cases, resorting to honorifics is an attempt to distance yourself from someone by keeping all business entirely official...such as during a reprimand, or a fight for a(n) promotion at work. Also, Honorifics can be used to speak about someone in the Third person, even if they are in fact present for the conversation. When used in this way, It can (and often is) insulting. IMO, Obama using McCains' first name to refer to him was simply an act of politeness. McCain was the one being intentionally rude by adhering to honorifics...And also IMO, it shows' that McCain has a hard time dealing with people that he considers belligerent, by attempting to keep them distant as possible. It also helped keep his temper from flaring, and making him say something he would deeply wish he hadn't said later.

Don't worry, Dago...I won't charge you for the free training. 

Perception and understanding really isn't your strong suit is it?

This thread was about the reality of what was done, not an analysis of the possible reasons.  It's that simple.

Trying to read too much into it, or trying to take the thread beyond the simple obvious facts is just you trying to obscure the blatant reality I started this thread discussing.

[FrodeMk3]

Perception and understanding really isn't your strong suit is it?

This thread was about the reality of what was done, not an analysis of the possible reasons.  It's that simple.

Trying to read too much into it, or trying to take the thread beyond the simple obvious facts is just you trying to obscure the blatant reality I started this thread discussing.

The reality is that any and all results of that Debate are in the eye of the beholder; at best, it is left to the whim of opinion. The only 'Blatant Reality' is that you are simply trying to enforce an opinion (yours) as fact. This thread is nothing less, and nothing more.

[Chalenge]

Im afraid Frode is wrong on more then just the points you (Dago) made not that most of the younger set in America would ever notice. McCain (even though I despise the man) grew up in a time when people did at least respect one another enough to be polite. You can see this in his use of the word 'sir' even though you can see he is squinting a little tighter when he says it. Obama makes no false pretenses that he respects anyone or anything and I am hoping (mind you I think there is little hope anymore) that the majority of people that show up on election day feel as I do that Obama will not respect the office of the POTUS anymore then Clinton did and show up in large masses to ensure Obama is kept out.

I will pray for a bright sunny day in all the red states and rain in the blue states come election day. Prayer is about all this country has anymore since Common sense left the electorate long ago.

Pass the ammo we are going to need it.

[Hangtime]

I hear he intends to paint 1600 Pennsylvania Ave black.

Seriously.

[FrodeMk3]

Im afraid Frode is wrong on more then just the points you (Dago) made not that most of the younger set in America would ever notice. McCain (even though I despise the man) grew up in a time when people did at least respect one another enough to be polite. You can see this in his use of the word 'sir' even though you can see he is squinting a little tighter when he says it. Obama makes no false pretenses that he respects anyone or anything and I am hoping (mind you I think there is little hope anymore) that the majority of people that show up on election day feel as I do that Obama will not respect the office of the POTUS anymore then Clinton did and show up in large masses to insure Obama is kept out.

I will pray for a bright sunny day in all the red states and rain in the blue states come election day. Prayer is about all this country has anymore since Common sense left the electorate long ago.

Pass the ammo we are going to need it.

To expect the candidates' to really respect each other, in the political Poo-fling manner of politics that is practiced in this country any more, would actually be expecting too much. McCain wasn't speaking to Obama as an equal or a fellow Senator; He was doing his best to distance himself, IMO. That in itself would be a sort of second line insult, as if you were being spoke down upon, as if by a superior.

I will admit that as a debate tactic, if it was knowingly being implemented as one, was effective. It was causing Obama to act more out of character then usual, to stutter, and to more openly attack McCain.

[Dago]

The reality is that any and all results of that Debate are in the eye of the beholder; at best, it is left to the whim of opinion. The only 'Blatant Reality' is that you are simply trying to enforce an opinion (yours) as fact. This thread is nothing less, and nothing more.

Did you recently hear a "whishing" sound fly over your head?

The results of the debate are NOT what I was discussing.  Sheesh, go to WalMart and buy a clue.

[Mr No Name]

Sheesh, go to WalMart and buy a clue.

Hey, not jumping on to either side of your fight here BUT as a public service I'd like to point out that any clues purchased at wal-mart are most likely made in communist china and are inherently sub par - possibly even dangerous.  Please buy American or at least western clues... they'll stand up longer!