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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #30 on: September 28, 2008, 03:28:19 PM »
Its comforting to know that the vocal part of this community in no way reflects America in general. If it was so McCane would win by 10 to 1  :)

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2008, 04:21:47 PM »
LOL Eagler.. Right on the money; ... the annoyed pissed off working man will decide this in a landslide on election day.. polls be damned. I put this up back in February.. looking it over, nothing has changed.

There is a great amount of interest in this year’s presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an African-American — while the conservative religious right wing Republicans are in a quandary about their party’s nod to a middle of the road maverick veteran, John McCain.

Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to evangelical Christians.

There is one group no one has recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the Angry Working Man. The Angry Working Man comes from all economic backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck, deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.

His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone — just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing field. He’s the working backbone of the economy; a tradesman, a businessman, an independent owner/operator, a systems specialist, a builder, a baker, a candlestick maker. He pays more than his share of taxes and he works hard to make a life and a place for himself and his family.

The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized” and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the company Christmas party, braces for the kids, college educations or a beautiful wedding.

He believes the Constitution is to be interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in their pampered elitist lives.

The Angry Working Man owns firearms, and he’s willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really doesn’t bother him in the slightest.

The Angry Working Man is not a metrosexual, a homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina — he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.

His last name and religion doesn’t matter. His background might be Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he might be Black or White, could have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he considers himself a Working American first.. White or Black or Whatever isn’t relevant to where he’s coming from… “Working” and “American” are.

He’s a man’s man, the kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunts white-tailed deer, calls turkeys, builds cars, runs boats, and plays radio. He might spend a few bucks at a strip club once in a blue moon, he’s like as not out in the driveway on Saturday Mornings, changing his own oil or washing the car… and he probably likes to build things. He’s likely to be coaching baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny for it. He’s the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of friends, dig a basement, rock a wall, weld a new bumper for his truck, change a diaper and cook a meal. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.

Women either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag. If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir” and “No, ma’am.”

He might be a Republican and he might be a Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a new-fangled populist. He knows that his wife is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational manner.

He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.

Most important, the Angry Working Man is pissed off. When his job site becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.

He also votes, and the Angry Working Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, her willingness to waste his tax dollars on people who refuse to do anything for themselves. He’s also not charmed about handing the keys to the nations security to an inexperienced starry-eyed smooth talking opportunist from the Chicago Shady Politics Mill… no matter what his skin color or his name is.. or isn’t.

There are many millions of Angry Working Men. Four million Angry Working Men are members of the National Rifle Association, and all of them will vote against the Democratic Players… just like they have the last 8 times out the gate.

The Angry Working Americans are resigned to the fact that regardless of who the Democratic nominees for president and vice president will be in 2008, he is resolved that they get beaten like the Rented Mules they really are. He will vote in November… and he hopes that every other Angry Working Man in America votes and that at last, and finally; the message is received; the borders closed, the ports secured, our primacy in our own nation restored. This nation does NOT belong to the Pandering Politicians in pursuit of profits for Corporate Giants.. it belongs to US. It’s past time we took it back.


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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2008, 04:46:00 PM »
Got links for that copypasta?

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #33 on: September 28, 2008, 05:10:36 PM »
So, are you a trained observer, or a Psychologist? Because if you're not, your observations' only hold as much water as anyone else's. And can't be considered in any way more learned/superior. Just simply opinion.
Now your just acting squealing stupid.

I don't need training to know when someone is interrupting someone else or calling someone Senator or by their first name.  Maybe you don't have the powers of basic observation given human beings at birth, but I am not missing that minor ability.   :rolleyes:

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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #34 on: September 28, 2008, 05:12:54 PM »
I found it understandable because McCain was throwing out straw-man after straw-man, which is worthy of interruption in my book.

Another straw-man. :aok
 

You've worn the term out, it's time to come up with a new one.   But now I realize why you use it.   You have no factual rebuttal, so you play the part of the wounded puppy.   Your posts add little input to this thread, but you claim others as using "straw man".   

You're like my best friend who is a die hard Democrat.   I'm for neither party, but the crazy crap he comes up with is laughable.   I corner him with one fact and he hides like a chameleon.   

Bodhi's post is spot on, but you haven't a sufficient rebuttal, because you KNOW he's correct.   We have all become accustomed to laziness.   ATM's, Debit cards, the Internet shopping, Autotrader, the list goes on and on.   Previous things we used to do that involved "interaction with other humans" have slipped a bit.   

A good example?   Your local hardware store.   I rarely go to Home Depot anymore.   Why?   I've lost count on how many times I have witnessed other customers ask "Where is <insert whatever you wish> this located?"   Only to be sent on a wild goose chase by some bumbling idiot making $14 an hour, who doing nothing more than "sliding by in life". 
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #35 on: September 28, 2008, 05:17:39 PM »
Got links for that copypasta?

It crossed thru my email in-box Feb 9th. As an 'opinion' piece that's been email forward fodder for months 'source' is dubious and inconsequential. Substance-wise, I'm pretty much in agreement with it. It would seem that Zogby Polling data supports the premise... the Angry Working Man will be heard from on election day.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #36 on: September 28, 2008, 05:19:31 PM »
'source' is dubious and inconsequential. Substance-wise, I'm pretty much in agreement with it.

That makes you Dan Rather.   :rofl  :aok   :D
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #37 on: September 28, 2008, 05:20:38 PM »
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2008, 05:24:58 PM »
That makes you Dan Rather.   :rofl  :aok   :D

LOL.. gawd; that's harsh!  

Oh, well.

Guess my hopes for the Anchor Desk are dashed. ;)
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2008, 05:25:50 PM »
I found this to be interesting, I posted this in my squad forum, I am glad to share this with you here.  

Pay attention to the date of this article and what has happened up until now with the housing market.
 
Everyone was quick to blame the Bush administration for this when in fact it started with the DEM's and the Clinton faction.

OBAMA:As Far as his great idea's on the economy and a way out of the current crisis please read this Ny Times article of Sept 30, 1999 to see the roots of the problem and Obama advisors were involved it's inception.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260


For your added pleasure, feel free to read this educated idots view of "what will black people do if Obama isnt elected", rather lengthy but you will enjoy some of the reponses to this post, I never respond to such posts but I had too, enough was enough, you will find my response under Rich33, enjoy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-kennedy_28edi.ART.State.Edition1.26d93f3.html?ocp=1#slcgm_comments_anchor
« Last Edit: September 28, 2008, 05:38:29 PM by Dadsguns »


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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #40 on: September 28, 2008, 05:38:33 PM »
I found this to be interesting, I posted this in my squad forum, I am glad to share this with you here.  

Pay attention to the date of this article and what has happened up until now with the housing market.
 
Everyone was quick to blame the Bush administration for this when in fact it started with the DEM's and the Clinton faction.

OBAMA:As Far as his great idea's on the economy and a way out of the current crisis please read this Ny Times article of Sept 30, 1999 to see the roots of the problem and Obama advisors were involved it's inception.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260


For you added pleasure, feel free to read this educated idots view of "what will black people do if Obama isnt elected", rather lengthy but you will enjoy some of the reponses to this post, I never respond to such posts but I had too, enough was enough, you will find my response under Rich33, enjoy.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/points/stories/DN-kennedy_28edi.ART.State.Edition1.26d93f3.html?ocp=1#slcgm_comments_anchor

Damn nice article... proves the point I made in another thread and was suspected of race baiting... hahaha the internet can be a good thing now and then.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2008, 05:47:50 PM »
Well I'd just like to point out that McCain really did not look at Obama at all during the debate.

Now your just acting squealing stupid.

I don't need training to know when someone is interrupting someone else or calling someone Senator or by their first name.  Maybe you don't have the powers of basic observation given human beings at birth, but I am not missing that minor ability.   :rolleyes:



Obviously you do need training, as if you listen to this video, you will notice:

Obama does address McCain as "Senator McCain" and then McCain says "horseshit" twice in a row, which is not overly impressive.  To be precise, look at 0:05.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #42 on: September 28, 2008, 05:52:50 PM »
Well I'd just like to point out that McCain really did not look at Obama at all during the debate.

Obviously you do need training, as if you listen to this video, you will notice:

Obama does address McCain as "Senator McCain" and then McCain says "horsepoop" twice in a row, which is not overly impressive.  To be precise, look at 0:05.

Was he referring to the candidates or the news anchors?
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #43 on: September 28, 2008, 05:57:29 PM »
Its comforting to know that the vocal part of this community in no way reflects America in general. If it was so McCane would win by 10 to 1  :)

I think you would be very surprised how musch it does. Its called the silent majority. Its just that they don't get polled as much as the liberal side does and evener sadder that they don't go out and vote.
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Re: Did you notice? Obama did, McCain didn't
« Reply #44 on: September 28, 2008, 06:05:46 PM »
I think you would be very surprised how musch it does. Its called the silent majority. Its just that they don't get polled as much as the liberal side does and evener sadder that they don't go out and vote.

If this community did in fact represent the entire population, you would notice two major differences in America/Aces High:
  • the Democrats would get far fewer electoral votes in the elections than they actually do
  • Aces High would have a MUCH larger list of subscriptions, as most people would therefore be very interested in World War II aviation, and in flying WWII combat flight simulators.

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