Obama tramples the First Amendment

[JAGED]

 

[lazs2]

mojava...others have answered you here and you should read them but...

Please explain to me what an "assualt weapon" is to you and why it should be banned.   why a low powered semi auto carbine that was rarely used in any murders should be banned.

As for "allowing" gun locks..  they were always allowed.. you could put one on any gun you wanted.. this of course would make it useless as a firearm to not only children but to you in case you needed it for defense but.. you were always welcome to do it.

In england, australia and other countries..  regestration has been used to confiscate guns that were legal at the time of the law..  later.. when those guns were outlawed.. they knew right where to go..

please explain how osamabinbidens ban on concealed carry and handguns ideas are not a threat to us.

So yes.. I would still ask you to answer the question on if you are an idiot or not.

lazs

[Holden McGroin]

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The first amendment prohibits congress from passing a law restricting your freedom of speech: it does not prohibit me from suing you for what you say.

[Mojava]

 You think Ak47s and uzis should be sold to the general public, or armor piercing rounds?  What is so wrong with registering a firearm, or a background check.  Maybe you should reread my post instead of drawing conclusions. You come across as incredibly paranoid.

 Check your facts oh paranoid one http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

[lazs2]

Ok.. I guess you answered my question.. you seem to be saying that yes.. you are an idiot.. read the moronic factcheck article.. it pretty much says that your boy only wants "reasonable" restrictions..  that is like saying I want reasonable restrictions on abortion.. for me.. reasonable means no woman under the age of 65 can have one.

You don't even know what an uzi or an ak47 is do you?   really... you don't.   What klinton banned and what your boy wants to ban are semi auto versions of said firearms.   Your boy voted against the protection of commerce bill for gun manufacturers.. a bill that would prevent manufacturers from being sued out of existence...

He says right in it that he favors making it impossible for a gun to be useful by imposing trigger locks and he says right in his own statement that he would bring back the assault weapon ban that had nothing to do with uzi's or ak47's at all...

The armor piercing ban is about any ammo that can penetrate any level of vest.. that would be most handguns and their ammo today..  My 44 would eat through a level 3 vest of the old style with bullets made from common wheelweights...  My gun or at least it's ammo would be banned.. yes.. I feel threatened by your boy


even factcheck admits that your boy wants to end the most successful expression of our second amendment rights.. that of concealed carry..  HOW IS THAT NOT "COMING AFTER OUR GUNS"?   they also say that it is true that he wants to restrict handguns and regtister em with.. again "reasonable" restrictions.

Does it not make you uneasy that he does not just come out and say what these "reasonable restrictions" are?

could he not just clear up this mess by stating his position?   Of course he could and that is why he does not.

He made the statement after the DC decision that he agreed that the second was an individual right.. yet.. he was one of the few who would not sign a brief urging the SC to say that it was an individual right.. up until the decison.. he said many times that it was a "collective right" or... no right at all.

He has voted against gun owners 100% of the time..   I ask you..  At what point will enough gun grabbing be enough for him?  at what point will he vote against or veto a bill that takes away the rights of gun owners?

He never has yet.. SO FAR HE HAS NOT SEEN AN ANTI SECOND BILL THAT HE DIDN'T LIKE.

lazs

[Mr No Name]

You think Ak47s and uzis should be sold to the general public, or armor piercing rounds?
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Actually, I DO...  Until some gun grabbers (FDR in 1934) crippled us early last century, we could order one of these by mail!:



The gangsters would have had a much tougher time muscling in if the average citizen had access to these... Any further gun restrictions would have us helpless against the mexican drug cartel which now controls our southern border and has a trail of corruption that leads, IMHO all the way to the WhiteHouse

[Mojava]

 Lazs anything that doesn't agree with your overblown opinion is idiotic.   There is absolutely nothing anyone could say to you that would change your mind about Obama.  I believe if you check the amount of Democrats and Republicans that own guns, you'll find it a fairly even mix. No one is taking your guns away, and no amount of name calling or over dramatizing will prove to me otherwise. Your thing is to see everything in extremes, the left is all communist, they want my guns etc... It's just a bunch of horse hooey. Listen to yourself sometimes.

 Here you go Mr No Name http://www.gangstersandoutlaws.com/Tommygun.html

[WilldCrd]

some folks ya just cant reach....

I own 12 guns. of which only 2 are "registered" and thats only because I have a CHL.
I had <cough> a AK 47 full auto BEFORE the ban.
I also still have several boxes of Black Talons <they the shiznit>
I recently purchased a 16gauge shotgun for the wife. She also has a 9mm but the shotgun is primaritly for home defense iffen im on the crapper when the door gets kicked in and my rotty "entertains" the would be visitor while she displays her shooting prowess. 
I recently bought several large pieces of PVC pipe with end caps "just in case"
They can have my guns.....IF they can find em 

[Mr No Name]

I KNOW the gangsters used them... and the B.A.R.... Problem is, the access was taken away from law-abiding people and they could do as they wish because they had the superior firepower.  If everyone had the access to these guns, their reign of mayhem would have been much shorter.

In a few countries you are REQUIRED to have a fully automatic working weapon in your house.  I bet breaking and entering in those countries isn't much of a problem.

[Hangtime]

Actually.. the public sided with dillinger, bonnie & clyde, etc.. back then, robbing banks was considered patriotic. For good reason. Looks to me like an acceptable form of protest in the years to come.

 

[mensa180]

The president appoints supreme court justices.

Yes, but he can't fire the ones already in place..as in the ones Bush appointed.  Correct me if I'm wrong, then forgive me for being ignorant and not paying enough attention in school...  I try

[Dos Equis]

some folks ya just cant reach....

I own 12 guns. of which only 2 are "registered" and thats only because I have a CHL.
I had <cough> a AK 47 full auto BEFORE the ban.
I also still have several boxes of Black Talons <they the shiznit>
I recently purchased a 16gauge shotgun for the wife. She also has a 9mm but the shotgun is primaritly for home defense iffen im on the crapper when the door gets kicked in and my rotty "entertains" the would be visitor while she displays her shooting prowess. 
I recently bought several large pieces of PVC pipe with end caps "just in case"
They can have my guns.....IF they can find em 

So.... let me get this right.

You "used" to have a fully automatic AK47. Your rottweiler is trained to attack anybody who comes through the door.

You have pipe bomb material, as you say, "just in case".

In case of what?

Yeah, you guys aren't wingnuts. Not at ALLLLL.

[Dos Equis]

You don't even know what an uzi or an ak47 is do you?   really... you don't.   

I guess at the O'Club, there is only one man who knows his weapons. The rest of you... wussies... all of you. Lazs is your man! He can tell you the difference between a AK-47 and an AK-74. He can clean the firing pin between his teeth! He turns off all the lights in his basement - now converted into a gun range - so he can test out his tracer ammo!

lazs - Master of his domain! Soldier of Fortune! Wingnut amongst wingnuts!

[Hangtime]

dos, would you mind holding this and running back and forth about 500 yards out?



Thanks! 

[Getback]

Is the NRA not a 501 tax-exempt organization? If they are it's against the law to support or denounce a political candidate. Running adds about Obama no matter in support or against would be breaking federal law and violating their tax exempt status. I know the http://www.nrafoundation.org is a 501 group, but I'm not sure how or if it's seprated from the other parts of the NRA.

I'm not sure if they are or aren't tax exempt. I heard they were spending $40 million on attack ads. If they are tax exempt then they may be walking in the gray area. That would be defending a constitutional right. I'm no lawyer though. Somehow I will bet what they are doing is quite alright. They have been doing it for years.