Quad core problems

[doc1kelley]

Let me clarify.  I would like to hear from others who have the quad corre Phenom CPU about this before making changes to documentation.

I am running an AMD Phenom 9850 Black Box edition under Winblows XP Pro and have NOT run AH in compability mode.  I have been running it for about 5-6 months now without incident.

All the Best...
   
    Jay

[Skuzzy]

Thank you.  <S>

[drdeathx]

SKUZZY,

I am running AMD 9850 black edition quad core. No problems with aces high at all and I actaully built it myself. LOL/ I think the fix has been addressed with tri core and quad core from amd.


AMD 9850 quad core(oc'd to 2.8g)
Thermaltake 760i liquid cooled(running 29 deg idle 34 deg full load)
MSI k9a2 motherboard
4g Corsiar CM2x2048 ram (800 oc'd to 1066)
Windows xp pro 32 bit
Nvidea gtx 280(1g)
Thermaltake 700w power supply
Seagate 3500320as  sata 500g hard drive partitioned
 

[Chalenge]

My research indicates that AMD (the source I was indicating) is still selling quad core phenoms that have a bad core as a triple core phenom. So if it is the translation lookaside buffer (TLB) that causes the problem with AHII then X3 cores will still cause a problem and the kernel patch WILL NOT fix the problem which will force users to run in 98 compatibility mode.

This and other problems with AMD (that they are not open about) led me to the conclusion it was time to move into an Intel system.

[drdeathx]

quad cores have been fixed. As you see I am running same processor and have no problems. I do not think they had problems with tri core but I may be wrong. Been running 9850 for  4 months and perfect processor.

[drdeathx]

you may have other issues... In your software or drivers. You need to give skuzzy a ring. It is not your processor.

[drdeathx]

Challenge,


Your research is absolutely wrong about AMD quad cores. Although it is AMD's first try at quad core they got a nice rating for the price. Intel has pretty much owned the processor world for some time now. They are way ahead of AMD but... If you look at the price of the new intel technology they are a bit more pricey so thats why Amd's first gig was OK. All the duo and tri core issues haven't been a problem as my research has show. There have been 2 replies to this guys posts that have the 9850 and pooof no problems. The 9850 can be overclocked to 3.0g which is not bad but intels are racing at 3.0-3.5 right now which is at least 10% faster. The AMD northbridge does allow for much faster bandwith. I run my AMD 9850 at a nice 2.9g. This guy has a different problem.

[Skuzzy]

You cannot compare Intel and AMD clock-for-clock.  Intel's CPU's are now about 30% to 50% faster, clock-for-clock.  If you price compare.  You will find you are paying more for an AMD that performs the same as the Intel, and for more money, you can simply run away from AMD.  For example, AMD has nothing, performance wise, to compete agains the Intel E8500 no matter what the price.

Quad core CPU's are a bit of a waste, unless you are doing real time video and/or audio encoding.  Those are the major reasons for quad core, and there are a couple of other applications that could get 15% to 25% better performance from a quad core CPU, but for the price, the dual core CPU's offer far more band-for-the-buck to the general user.  If you go top end, the dual core will simply blow away a quad core CPU in raw performance in most applications.

[Chalenge]

I stand by what I said.

[drdeathx]

I was just responding to challenges reply about the tri cores and quad cores having a bad core. Intels are much faster and there is no comparison. I would like to read any blog about the amd quad cores having a bad core.

[Chalenge]

I think you know how to use a search engine just like anyone else so I will link to just a single site and you can do any furhter searching yourself. It really pays to do some research on these things when you are responsible for the acquisition of equipment for the people that pay your salary.

Then we have Phenom. At 285 mm^2, Phenom is huge and AMD can't make that many per wafer, plus with such a large die the yield is lower than on a smaller chip. The triple-core Phenom X3 gives AMD something to do with those quad-core die that have a single defective core, rather than throwing the entire chip away it can now be repackaged and sold as a triple-core processors.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3293&p=2

[drdeathx]

No... really just post the link its rather easy.

[Chalenge]

No... really just post the link its rather easy.

  While I am puzzled that you didnt seem to see the link I believe what you really want to do... in fact always seem to want to do... is to start an argument. Since I am not a moderator on these forums I will wait for Skuzzy to deal with you.

[drdeathx]

oooh i know how to use a search engine. I did 100 x more research than your post and never saw any blogs or posts in any forums so.... Why waste my time. If you want to back it up simply prove it.  And it better not be an isolated cause like I suspect. If there is a problem I will simply "bow" down.

[Chalenge]

As I suspect English is not your native language (or one you are too young to have mastered yet) I will ignore your naive attempt to entice me into an argument. The problem I mentioned has been ongoing for some time (years) and even a poor search will find numerous discussions on the topic. I must therefore assume you replied falsely with pure lack of genuineness and so I will ignore everything you say in the future as non-germaine and non-substantive. Have a nice day.