All yall stepped in it this time!
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You could have used brakes to affect that stuff Bronk...
And btw, educate me? You couldn't tell me ****.
You've been the one getting educated, so sthu!
<-thats my middle finger poking up!
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Stodd, don't make me post the film of shooting you down with my 190a5 (with 25fuel and no outer cannons) and 2 other planes too at fiter town... "Schlowy3 landed 3 victories" while you were still hollaring 'you sux!'...
I did NOT give you permission to laugh at me!
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Hitech, I couldn't understand a sentence you typed... go calm down, sober up, and come back in a few hours!
The above statement is an example of how some of the "
3000posts(or more) Allied Fliers" treat us "
50posts(or less) Innocent Luft Folk" - flame it up! At least I didn't do you like Glock89 would have and put 101 of the "
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. Learn how 2 spell.
RoC by the way.
So, Hitech, just kidding, I'll assume your not upset, not drunk, and not retarded, etc, etc, etc...
That being said, bias or sources is my question.
-The current topic:
"Why I wondered if firing amo slowed planes"
A 190 getting chased, both planes at co-E, it seems 190 acceleration IS MUCH LESS THAN most other planes acceleration EVEN WHEN the trailing plane is SPRAYING AMO!
-The current conclusion:
**AH 190's sux worse than I thought**
(My NEW opinion of AH 190s) = (My old opinion of AH 190s) - (the force induced by firing amo!)
Countless times, some piece of garbage junk on my 6, firing away, and still gaining, from Co-E.
-The Actual Issue:
Amo slowing planes down DOES seem like an insignificant amount, so maybe its more this:
Some say "They're cutting your corners":
The roll and cut penalty to speed is severe to 190s.
I do the 'reasonable force' method when attempting to out run (rather that try to slow and force overshoot): I roll and cut to be enough out of the direct path of the trailing bogey, which also corrects its course. End result usually is that he is only closer than before. My guess is that 190's get severe penalties for pulling back on the stick at all.
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Roll rate" in one hand and "
severe penalty to 'instantaneous turning'" in other hand, results in a doomed 190. Our 190 goes from slight pull back to viscious stall, skipping the part of 'excellent instantaneous.'
As I see it, AH2 = AW5, so we can't totally discard this ole book:
From AW2 manual separate purchase manual, "Air Warrior II Stratagies and Secrets" page 154:
The Fock Wulf 190A8 is the fastest of all planes in the European Theatre of Operations (ETO) (behind the P-51, P47, and P-38 at some altitudes). It does compress a bit at verh high speeds. The Focke Wulf 190A8's instantaneous turn rate is excellent, but its sustained turn rate is of extremely short duration. It has the highest roll response of all. On the other hand it climbs poorly, and doesn't work well at high altitude either. Its acceleration is good, but its E retention is poor. Th eFocke Wulf 190A8's armament is heavy. The cannon is retained through 80 percent of its firing duration, losing 2 at the 50 percent mark which is as leathal as a fresh Spitfire at this point, and repains so up till only 20 percent is left, where only the two machine guns remain. At 100 percent it's 75 percent more lethal than a Spitfire." There is a 2nd paragraph
It does say about 190A* having 'great armor and great durability,' and a 'vicious stall which tends to invert but easily recovered.' Hence I wondered why my 190s were losing Ailerons everytime!
*Seems our 190s is downgraded!*Seems the 190's turn rates are not only less, but they take more E also than in the ole days of AW
3I put a big post about how to fly AW3 190s when bogies were chasing:
(I put a follow-up post, wondering about does amo slow the trailing firing planes down... which is how we got to this thread)
Otherwise, Hitech, Sir, besides my bad opinion of the modeling... <Salute> thanks for the awesome game! 190sFix 190s pls instantaneous turn rate pls!
Fix 190s 20mm's pls. How bout that 190a8 amo rating from the AW2 book? I tend to have to slow down too much to saddle when in me 190d9.
109sNo comment about the crimes against the 109s!
Ok 1 comment! Ya know, it did have two radiators would be nice if the damage screen had two also!
Inferior Spits, their copying started with the fuel injection, and finally caught up with two radiators in the late models, so maybe they get two also but only in the late model!
Btw, i you're having trouble counting, I highly recommend Sesame Street show!
