Explain to me why there's no need for proof of citizenship to vote

[Toad]

I admit I am confused on this one.

Why is there no requirement that a person show proof of citizenship before being registered to vote? According to that conservative rag the NY Times only Arizona requires proof of citizenship.

Why? Why do we allow non-citizens an easy avenue to determine our national leadership?

In many states a utility bill, such as a cell phone bill, is sufficient proof of something deemed fit to allow access to a voting booth.

As I mentioned in another thread I'm pretty sure most of the 9/11 hijackers could have registered to vote on the rock solid proof of something provided by their cell phone bills.

Has this country gone absolutely nuts? What the hell is going on here?

[RedTop]

Has this country gone absolutely nuts? What the hell is going on here?

Change

[mg1942]

OMFG

Voter Registration Card!!!

You don't have it, you can't vote.

[AKIron]

Why be a hater Toad? Obama must lead the world to peace, love, happiness, change, and make the oppresive corporations pay the bill. Why prevent those citizens of the world from getting their due even if they aren't technically qualified to vote?

[RedTop]

OMFG

Voter Registration Card!!!

You don't have it, you can't vote.

mg...huh...re-read what he asked...

You dont need proof of citizenship to get a card....Obama would say it like ..."just ask and ye shall recieve my imigrants"

[Hangtime]

I admit I am confused on this one.

Why is there no requirement that a person show proof of citizenship before being registered to vote? According to that conservative rag the NY Times only Arizona requires proof of citizenship.

Why? Why do we allow non-citizens an easy avenue to determine our national leadership?

In many states a utility bill, such as a cell phone bill, is sufficient proof of something deemed fit to allow access to a voting booth.

As I mentioned in another thread I'm pretty sure most of the 9/11 hijackers could have registered to vote on the rock solid proof of something provided by their cell phone bills.

Has this country gone absolutely nuts? What the hell is going on here?

both my cats are registered republicans and vote absentee. my kids parakeet was a rebel.. it wuz a democrat. once day, after a heated debate, alas, the bird was eaten by the cats. not to worry tho.. it still votes from the grave, like most dead democrats.

[Mr No Name]

OMFG

Voter Registration Card!!!

You don't have it, you can't vote.

WRONG!  In South Carolina, you may vote with a driver's license provided you have registered.  When I registered in 1982, I had to bring in a birth certificate.  In Ohio now, they do not even have to show a photo ID!  And yes, a utility bill is sufficient to them. We need to band together and force the illegals out of the country, the new directives in Ohio are completely designed to allow illegals to vote.  There are roughly 8 states that allow this type of garbage.

[Anaxogoras]

Senior advocacy groups are dead set against it (no pun intended).  The poorest of the poor often lack valid I.D., and the politicians they tend to vote for protect them from an I.D. requirement.  There's also some shameful episodes from this country's past where some groups were intentionally disenfranchised, and so not requiring I.D. makes it very hard to accomplish such a dastardly deed.

[Mr No Name]

who cares?  They can unbunch their panties later.  I want to KNOW who is voting.

[Yeager]

Yes Toad, rejoice in your soon to be new title: CITIZEN OF TEH WORLD!!!!

[mietla]

How is it that if you park for 2h:00:07 in 2 hours max parking zone they WILL catch you, they WILL find where you live and you WILL pay the ticket. Obviously there is a budget for this. When you vote (who actually reads the ballot?)  they'll tell you that there is no money for schools, the police, the fire department, but here ... poof there is tons of money for parking violations enforcements.

and in addition we have millions of invisible illegals/criminals/dead/non-existing etc folks who get home loans, buy homes, rape, still ... and VOTE...


... and that there is absolutely nothing we can do to detect/catch/prevent/even-REPORT this. As a matter of fact, federal laws are CREATED SPECIFICALLY to prevent lower jurisdictions (state/city/local/private companies) from detecting, prosecuting or even REPORTING on those individuals. ESPECIALLY the private companies. If they do report an illegal, THEY'll go to a slammer. tThe perp goes free (happy and voting again in 4 years).



You know why? Because the fed government is great in prosecuting those who choose to obey the law (the sheep). Those who refuse to obey the law, the government hides, protects, cuddles, loves and invites to vote. They don't want to deal with wolves. Sheering the sheep is so much easier that taming a wolf.


Because the volves WILL vote for those boogers in DC.

They call it helping the "poor". Or better yet they call it "standing for/defending the middle class". And the sheep eat it up.

[mietla]

Even if you assume/suspect that the vote of "same day" registered voter is a fraud... what can you do?

By definition the votes are confidential. How do you remove a fraudulent vote? You just can't (You are not suppose to know what he was voting for). And if you tell me you can, the vote is a scam to begin with, since it not confidential.

Of course, you just shut up about it and give the dude a cigarette, a condom, a candy or something so he comes back again next vote. For a cig he'll vote any way you tell him. You just bought yourself a voting machine.


Only those who pay taxes should be able to vote. More taxes you pay the more your vote should count. Founding Fathers knew that well and they said it many, many times. They've all dreaded the "democracy-share with me what's your's-principle"

[Chalenge]

Democrats have argued for a LONG time that due to slavery and the unfortunate place a person is born that their constituents (somehow they have a monopoly on certain people) may be too ignorant stupid physically-handicapped or mentally-handicapped to read or write or too poverty stricken to own an automobile and therefore cant have identification because they cant read or write (funny how they allow it in schools though) or be licensed to drive and therefore might not be able to prove that they are american citizens and might then be 'disenfranchised' (Dems love big words that their own constituents never use and dont know the definition of but can say 'Right!' after they use it and feel good about their 'brilliant leaders').

You should also ask Washington State how it is they managed to have more people vote in their election for Governor then are registered to vote there.

[Chalenge]

Even if you assume/hope that the vote of "same day" registered voter is a fraud... what can you do?

By definition the votes are confidential. How do you remove a fraudulent vote? You just can't. And if you tell me you can, the vote is a scam to begin with since it not confidential.

Of course, you just shut up about it and more give the dude an cigarette or something so he comes back again. For a cig he'll vote any way you tell him

Florida in the days following the Al Gore push to 'recount' discovered more and more voter fraud and began prosecuting individuals that voted in Florida and absentee in New York also. Dems especially have to be careful what they ask for.

[mietla]

By definition it should be IMPOSSIBLE to determine which vote is fraudulent and which one is legal. It should be impossible you determine whom/what I voted for.


How can you determine which vote is fraudulent and is is not AFTER the election?