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Offline JAGED

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2008, 01:28:42 PM »
You forgot this part of my quote "about World Trade Bombings, Terrorism, Embassy Bombings, during his tenure?"



And he will continue to ignore anything that goes against his party!  :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2008, 01:32:32 PM »
Brought down the national debt. :aok

Nothing would be acceptable, Ignored would be preferable.


This is what I would call "Bills Clintons-Purse Slapping" diplomacy, instead of closing his fist and Knocking them out.

"In August 1998, 13 TLAM-C Block 3 and 66 TLAM-D Block 3 were fired from U.S. ships and submarines against a factory target in Khartoum, Sudan, and at terrorist camps in Afghanistan. That December, 325 TLAM-C and TLAM-D missiles were fired at targets in Serbia and Kosovo.
In October 2001, some 50 to 70 missiles were launched against Afghanistan, and in March and April 2003 about 800 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired by the U.S. against targets in Iraq.(1)"

How quickly some forget that this has been going on for some time, our current administration was not willing to simply over look it anymore, they pulled the gloves off and went to war.

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #17 on: October 02, 2008, 01:49:50 PM »
Nice chart, Timofei, but it could be more informative.  For instance who was in control of The Congress over those time periods?

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #18 on: October 02, 2008, 02:12:22 PM »
March and April 2003 about 800 Tomahawk cruise missiles were fired by the U.S. against targets in Iraq.(1)"

How quickly some forget that this has been going on for some time, our current administration was not willing to simply over look it anymore, they pulled the gloves off and went to war.


They went to war with the wrong country, hence the reason to keep idiot morons out of the whitehouse.  McCain, I do not believe to be an idiot, he just made an idiot decision in picking moron Palin for his VP choice. :aok

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #19 on: October 02, 2008, 02:57:03 PM »
In this day and age I think you would play hell getting a permit for such a protest march.

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2008, 03:05:14 PM »
They went to war with the wrong country, hence the reason to keep idiot morons out of the whitehouse.  McCain, I do not believe to be an idiot, he just made an idiot decision in picking moron Palin for his VP choice. :aok

I don't think we went to war with the wrong country, terrorism was evident and prominent in Iraq as well as Afghanistan.  We may not have found the Golden Egg as far as WMD goes though he was in the process of obtaining these materials to create the capacity to manufacture one.  
Much has been forgotten about the human atrocities as well as using chemical weapons amongst people that stood up to him, and the atrocities that happened to Afghanistan people.

I added some facts for you below.

Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups. During the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam commissioned several failed terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities. Prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the State Department listed Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism. The question of Iraq’s link to terrorism grew more urgent with Saddam’s suspected determination to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which Bush administration officials feared he might share with terrorists who could launch devastating attacks against the United States.

What evidence does the administration offer?
"Some Iraqi militants trained in Taliban-run Afghanistan helped Ansar al-Islam, an Islamist militia based in a lawless part of northeast Iraq. The camps of Ansar fighters, who clashed repeatedly with anti-Saddam Kurds, were bombed in the early days of Operation Iraqi Freedom. In February 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the UN Security Council that Iraq was harboring a terrorist cell led by Abu Musab Zarqawi, a suspected al-Qaeda affiliate and chemical and biological weapons specialist. Powell said al-Zarqawi had both planned the October 2002 assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan and set up a camp in Ansar al-Islam’s territory to train terrorists in the use of chemical weapons. Powell added that senior Iraqi and al-Qaeda leaders had met at least eight times since the early 1990s. "

What type of terrorist groups did Iraq support under Saddam Hussein’s regime?
Primarily groups that could hurt Saddam’s regional foes. Saddam has aided the Iranian dissident group Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (known by its Turkish initials, PKK), a separatist group fighting the Turkish government. Moreover, Iraq has hosted several Palestinian splinter groups that oppose peace with Israel , including the mercenary Abu Nidal Organization, whose leader, Abu Nidal, was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002. Iraq has also supported the Islamist Hamas movement and reportedly channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. A secular dictator, however, Saddam tended to support secular terrorist groups rather than Islamist ones such as al-Qaeda, experts say.






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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2008, 05:00:50 PM »
I drank koolaid today

fixed....

BTW...is yours sugar free?
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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2008, 05:18:48 PM »
Nice chart, Timofei, but it could be more informative.  For instance who was in control of The Congress over those time periods?

First of all, I don't think under the Clinton years the debt went down, I believe it was the deficit(the amount we borrow)

And yeah, it was a republican congress who stood up to the pres and said "no, no more spending"

Then they get a member of their own party in and go on a spending spree, peaking in 2005 with over 13,000 earmarks
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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2008, 06:26:38 PM »
Think who do you vote for:

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One problem with your graph there Timofei:

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Constitution of the United States of America:
Article I, Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

Presidents do not have constitutional power to spend, borrow, or tax.

It is CONGRESS that spends, borrows, and taxes.

Therfore it is on the shoulders of CONGRESS that the fault lies.

yet they will overwhelmingly be retained.  Only 25 +/- of the 460 some odd up for election will lose their jobs.
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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2008, 12:16:50 PM »
First of all, I don't think under the Clinton years the debt went down, I believe it was the deficit(the amount we borrow)

And yeah, it was a republican congress who stood up to the pres and said "no, no more spending"

Then they get a member of their own party in and go on a spending spree, peaking in 2005 with over 13,000 earmarks


I'm just sayin, get a crayon so that dems will be comfortable, and label that same chart "Rep Control Congress in '94" and look.

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2008, 12:23:21 PM »
A few years ago here in Tennessee, we had some fools who got elected and decided we needed an income tax to go with the rest of our exorbitant taxes. A radio host convinced the citizens to load up in their cars, come to the capitol, and circle the buildings every time the income tax came up for a vote. It never passed, some of those fools got sent home, and they don't bring that crap up any more.

Maybe it is time for the "Million Taxpayer March". Maybe it should be done 3-4 times a year, to remind those idiots who works for whom.

Virgil, I'm sorry to say, but as you can garner from the responses' in this thread...People would rather tow the party line than fix the country. There are Dem's and Repub's to blame, both sides of the isle. However, they tend to pick sides, and won't look at them introspectively.

I'm suprised 4 people in here agreed to the march idea...

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2008, 12:26:59 PM »
I don't think we went to war with the wrong country, terrorism was evident and prominent in Iraq as well as Afghanistan.  We may not have found the Golden Egg as far as WMD goes though he was in the process of obtaining these materials to create the capacity to manufacture one.  
Much has been forgotten about the human atrocities as well as using chemical weapons amongst people that stood up to him, and the atrocities that happened to Afghanistan people.

I added some facts for you below.

Has Iraq sponsored terrorism?
Yes. Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship provided headquarters, operating bases, training camps, and other support to terrorist groups fighting the governments of neighboring Turkey and Iran, as well as to hard-line Palestinian groups. During the 1991 Gulf War, Saddam commissioned several failed terrorist attacks on U.S. facilities. Prior to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, the State Department listed Iraq as a state sponsor of terrorism. The question of Iraq’s link to terrorism grew more urgent with Saddam’s suspected determination to develop weapons of mass destruction (WMD), which Bush administration officials feared he might share with terrorists who could launch devastating attacks against the United States.

What evidence does the administration offer?
"Some Iraqi militants trained in Taliban-run Afghanistan helped Ansar al-Islam, an Islamist militia based in a lawless part of northeast Iraq. The camps of Ansar fighters, who clashed repeatedly with anti-Saddam Kurds, were bombed in the early days of Operation Iraqi Freedom. In February 2003, Secretary of State Colin Powell told the UN Security Council that Iraq was harboring a terrorist cell led by Abu Musab Zarqawi, a suspected al-Qaeda affiliate and chemical and biological weapons specialist. Powell said al-Zarqawi had both planned the October 2002 assassination of a U.S. diplomat in Jordan and set up a camp in Ansar al-Islam’s territory to train terrorists in the use of chemical weapons. Powell added that senior Iraqi and al-Qaeda leaders had met at least eight times since the early 1990s. "

What type of terrorist groups did Iraq support under Saddam Hussein’s regime?
Primarily groups that could hurt Saddam’s regional foes. Saddam has aided the Iranian dissident group Mujahedeen-e-Khalq and the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (known by its Turkish initials, PKK), a separatist group fighting the Turkish government. Moreover, Iraq has hosted several Palestinian splinter groups that oppose peace with Israel , including the mercenary Abu Nidal Organization, whose leader, Abu Nidal, was found dead in Baghdad in August 2002. Iraq has also supported the Islamist Hamas movement and reportedly channeled money to the families of Palestinian suicide bombers. A secular dictator, however, Saddam tended to support secular terrorist groups rather than Islamist ones such as al-Qaeda, experts say.





Wrong, wrong, wrong, Bush and cheney were wrong.

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #27 on: October 03, 2008, 12:28:23 PM »
I'm wrong, wrong, wrong, oh I'm so wrong.

Fixed!  :aok
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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #28 on: October 03, 2008, 12:37:10 PM »

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Re: How about a "Million Taxpayer March"
« Reply #29 on: October 03, 2008, 12:38:14 PM »
For the love of God, sombody help me!

Fixed!  :aok
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