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Offline Hap

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Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« on: October 02, 2008, 12:40:26 PM »
On another thread in this forum, Skuzzy mentioned that decreasing textures from 1024 to 256 could help reduse system memory usage.

Just did some experimenting offline. 

Regardless of what texture I choose my # are between 644 and 570 for System Memory Used.  And 82.4 and 42.1 for Vid Memory Used.

So what's that mean?

Online, FPS hover around 60.  Less when things get busy.  Maybe into the 40's.

What got me to fiddling is that when someone is taking a high angle deflection shot, they'll nip my tail.  On my end, it looks like I'm safe.  Obviously, on their end, they're in good shape to take the shot due to the rusults.

How do y'all make use of the Vid Mem and Sys Mem usage numbers?

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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2008, 12:56:28 PM »
I should have also stated (it was apparent in the other thread), that it only effects the overall memory used if you have "Preload textures to system RAM" enabled in the "Video Settings".

Also note, Vista users might see memory loss if they change the "Maximum Texture Size" from one run to another.  It may not clear up until a reboot.  This is due to Vista's inate desire to populate all available RAM with something.
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2008, 01:02:13 PM »
Get FSautostart and install it and reboot and use it.

What you see happening is your system lag between your CPU and your vid card and the net lag.

What you need to do is turn off any unnecessary progs to AH and your system while in AH.

These unneed progs take up cycles and delay the CPU communication to the GPU.

It doesn't take very much to create the lag you see.

FSautostart can stop unneeded progs before you go into AH, start AH, and then restart anything you turned off and DON'T need running while you are in AH.

Also your firewall can create lag and your anti-virus can create lag.

You MIGHT want to turn them off when you're in AH and back on when you're done....

Hope that helps and you can also look in the tech support section of the AH BBS.
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2008, 08:22:28 AM »
Wrag, years ago, I used FS Autostart.  I saw no difference in frame rates.  NEVER did I examine memory usage.  Probably looking at the wrong set of numbers.

The only firewall I know of is the one that accompanies XP.

Also, I didn't detect any different "feel" to the game.

I've been reluctant to use it again because of what I mentioned, and the fear I might turn off a service that XP needs to run properly.
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2008, 09:06:05 AM »
Hap, if the service that is crucial to XP is turned off, it's only stopped, not disabled. This means restarting the system will start that service and return XP to normal operating procedures pre-FS Autostart.
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« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2008, 09:25:04 AM »
For the critical service s) that were disabled or for all the services?

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« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2008, 09:30:15 AM »
They're not disabled. They're stopped. That means they can be started again either through the services manager or by some other program. And if that doesn't do it a restart will.

Now if FS Autostart disables these services, I would be more alarmed. But from what I'm hearing, FS Autostart only stops them until you finish your game.
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2008, 09:54:14 AM »
Wrag, years ago, I used FS Autostart.  I saw no difference in frame rates.  NEVER did I examine memory usage.  Probably looking at the wrong set of numbers.

The only firewall I know of is the one that accompanies XP.

Also, I didn't detect any different "feel" to the game.

I've been reluctant to use it again because of what I mentioned, and the fear I might turn off a service that XP needs to run properly.

And if you Firewall is ON while you are flying in AH it CAN delay packets from AH and too AH even if you've given AH a pass through on the firewall.

Same with an Anti-virus program.

Both of them can decide that something is suspicious about a packet coming in or going out and they will check it to be safe.

IF you have the LATEST computer system with extremely FAST CPU and GPU then the following doesn't apply so much.  (But it applies on all systems all the time!)

FSautostart does what Denholm says.

It doesn't change anything permanently!

It only turns it off and then back on when you exit.

Also it will NOT turn off some things because it knows windows needs it.

If you hold the mouse over each program or service it will give you advice about that item.  (Make sure you REBOOT after you install it or this may not work!)

It tells you some things should REMAIN on.

And I'm not talking about FPS!

Your fps will probably NOT change in the least!

What should happen is what you see will be closer to what your computers sees!

So when you think you've avoided an attack it will probably be the case INSTEAD of thinking you avoided and BANG!

The Central Processing Unit and the Graphic Processing Unit aren't in sync!  There is a delay between them.  A small delay, perhaps 1/100 of a millisecond, probably even less then that, but there is ALWAYS a delay.  This usually isn't enough to notice, UNLESS too many OTHER UNNEEDED things are accessing the CPU!  Then delay increases!

What you want to do is REDUCE that amount of DELAY! 

Here....

The problem is NOT FPS!  It is, AGAIN, the LAG between your CPU and your GPU and the NET and how mainly UNNEEDED services and programs running in the backgorund, take up CPU cycles and make the communication between your CPU and GPU SLOWER thereby creating a case where what you SEE is not what is actually happening but is maybe about 1/2 a second behind what your CPU sees! 

With AcesHigh this lag can be CRITICAL!

I'm sure you've noticed that everything happens VERY FAST!

AcesHigh is a REAL TIME fight sim and the dynamics are VERY UNFORGIVING of LAG.  Packets are transferring so fast between AH and your system that there is LITTLE time for a packet to be sent twice!

Please reread my earlier post and if you still have questions, ask.
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2008, 07:31:15 AM »
Wrang, thanks bud!  You disable XP's firewall when you play?

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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2008, 09:15:30 AM »
Wrang, thanks bud!  You disable XP's firewall when you play?

I disable firewall, anti-virus, and then I use FSautostart AND a little tool called "whatsrunning" so I can get down to that number of about 17 to 23 things running in WinXP that is listed in the Tech Support BBS.

If I didn't have so many bad hops in my connect to AH (got at least 2, one sometimes spikes above 25%) I would be cooking! <sigh>

Been arguing with AT&T about those hops BTW.

Just ordered a Cat6 75 ft. cable to replace my Cat5e 100 ft. adding another comp to our dsl router anyway  so why not.  (Gonna use the Cat5e for that hook up).

AVOID WIRELESS for AH!!!!!  I tried it and NUTHIN but trouble!
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Re: Cntrl-I Sys Mem & Vid Mem Usage
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2008, 02:00:55 AM »
Here are 2 fixes that WILL HELP YOUR PERFORMANCE.

FSautostart is one....or ENDITALL2 and get CCLEANER



I prefer ENDITALL2. Do a google search quick download/quick install. What both of these programs do is end all unessecary programs you do not need running on your computer. Some need these programs when they do not game so.... Boot computer, run enditall2 and go game. When you reboot all these programs will restart with no problems.

You can actually turn off all your programs you do not need running in your control panel/administrative tools. If you do not now what you are doing, I do not reccommend this because you may end a program you actually need running.

The main reason (I have helped litterally dozens of guys and gals) is some of you have as many as 60 programs running in your background. XP will run on as little as I think 16. Now with the duo core and quad core processors out today some of us can get away with this but if you have a single core processor, I would recommend ending all your unessesary programs. You will see a mAjor inprovement in performance due to lower cpu usage and lower memory usage. This may improve your frame rates but will make your computer run much smother. If you have a duo or quad core, I would recommend the same thing. It can only help your performance.

Next is CCLEANER.... Do a google search and d/l. Quick and easy.

CCLEANER cleans your temporary files, cleans cookies, memory dumps,chdsk file fragments,cache and I could go on and on. Many Aces high users run Ccleaner and it will help your computer.


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