22lr

[1pLUs44]

Its luck since you're from Mississippi

See, if you were from TEXAS.... I'd say otherwise

[Dago]

Hey Lazs,

I knocked the wings off a gnat at 650 yards with a .45 acp 185 SWC.     

[lazs2]

WTG dago....    I shoot 230 grain slugs in my 45's that is probly what it wrong.    There isn't enough front site on any 45 auto I have found to lob one in at 400 yards.   I was still 20' low while aiming at the mountain peak in the background..  aiming at clouds I could lob one in.

I am no rifle shot..  If I can shoot 3 or four inch groups at 100 yards with open sights I am pleased.   I have shot some high powered scoped rifles that will shoot (even for me) less than fist sized groups at 200 yards and that is plenty good for me...   I am no sniper that is for sure.   

Like hang..  every rifle I have seen shoots better than I can shoot it.   Sometimes it is the difference between some guy that takes a full minute to fire each round and then me cranking off three from the same gun and him putting every round in something that is easily covered with a quarter and me having a round outside the quarter but..   he is better.   standing up and getting 8 off with a garand tho..  I can hold my own.  even an old 8 mm mauser with lyman peep on it.

Handguns?  well.. I do pretty well.

lazs

[Dago]

WTG dago....    I shoot 230 grain slugs in my 45's that is probly what it wrong.    There isn't enough front site on any 45 auto I have found to lob one in at 400 yards.   I was still 20' low while aiming at the mountain peak in the background..  aiming at clouds I could lob one in.

I am no rifle shot..  If I can shoot 3 or four inch groups at 100 yards with open sights I am pleased.   I have shot some high powered scoped rifles that will shoot (even for me) less than fist sized groups at 200 yards and that is plenty good for me...   I am no sniper that is for sure.   

Like hang..  every rifle I have seen shoots better than I can shoot it.   Sometimes it is the difference between some guy that takes a full minute to fire each round and then me cranking off three from the same gun and him putting every round in something that is easily covered with a quarter and me having a round outside the quarter but..   he is better.   standing up and getting 8 off with a garand tho..  I can hold my own.  even an old 8 mm mauser with lyman peep on it.

Handguns?  well.. I do pretty well.

lazs

As we have discussed before, if anything is past 100 yards away, it is time to shoot a rifle.  Shooting a handgun at 400 yards is just an exercise in wasting ammo.

If someone wants to shoot at handgun at me at 400 yards, I will surely giggle while I draw a bead with my iron sights on a rifle.

[Hangtime]

A handgun gives time to fight your way to your rifle. If there was ever a reason to walk though my door with a firearm with any appreciable chance of gunplay as the reason, I'll step though that door with my FAL. There's precious little 'cover' from a battle rifle that'll put the first aimed shot clear though a phone pole at 100 yards.. One aimed shot every 5 to 6 seconds means 10 downed targets every minute a rifleman is in action.

[Maverick]

A handgun gives time to fight your way to your rifle. If there was ever a reason to walk though my door with a firearm with any appreciable chance of gunplay as the reason, I'll step though that door with my FAL. There's precious little 'cover' from a battle rifle that'll put the first aimed shot clear though a phone pole at 100 yards.. One aimed shot every 5 to 6 seconds means 10 downed targets every minute a rifleman is in action.

Return fire changes things from the timed fire / hit perspective. If all you are doing is shooting something that doesn't or can't shoot back then the statement holds.

[Hangtime]

spray and pray stands no chance against somebody that's methodically working in his field of expertise.

[lazs2]

carrying a rifle around with you everywhere you go is not always practical..  owning a handgun, and being able to use it, that will shoot man sized targets with ease at 200 yards and make them stop... is a good skill to have.

lazs

[Heater]

I nailed a beaver last night from point blank range, had to hit 2 @ 3 times
dose this count?

[Maverick]

I nailed a beaver last night from point blank range, had to hit 2 @ 3 times
dose this count?

Wow bragging not only about sub caliber but also lack of firepower?!?!   

[Hangtime]

I nailed a beaver last night from point blank range, had to hit 2 @ 3 times
dose this count?

only with pics.

 

[superpug1]

With my FAL, if I can see it I can kill it (iron sights). With my K98 with Yugo scope Its fair game out to about 6 or 700 yards. Planted a buffalo at 100 yards, but I was shooting 200gr accubond with 45 grains of turkish military powder