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Offline mietla

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Parole..
« on: October 05, 2008, 10:19:27 PM »
Who invented this monstrosity?


The fact that you do not abuse jail guards is making your crime lesser?



Offline Cypher

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Re: Parole..
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2008, 10:27:33 PM »
in an ideal world there would be no such thing as parole or plea bargaining.

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Re: Parole..
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2008, 10:30:06 PM »
what are we talking about?
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2008, 10:35:51 PM »
in an ideal world there would be no such thing as parole or plea bargaining.

In an ideal world we wouldn't imprison people for victimless crimes.
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2008, 11:00:43 PM »
In an ideal world we wouldn't imprison people for victimless crimes.

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Re: Parole..
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2008, 11:35:07 PM »
In an ideal world we wouldn't imprison people for victimless crimes.
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We wouldn't send people to prison for crimes they didn't commit either.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2008, 11:36:34 PM »
In my ideal world if you had an evil thought your brain would explode.  :O
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2008, 11:37:42 PM »
In my ideal world if you had an evil thought your brain would explode.  :O
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2008, 12:00:14 AM »
We wouldn't send people to prison for crimes they didn't commit either.
what percentage of imprisoned people do you suspect of being innocent?  1%?  5%? 50%? 75%? 99%?

Give me an idea of what you are talking about here?
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2008, 12:15:54 AM »
In an ideal world we wouldn't imprison people for victimless crimes.


this my friend does not exist. every crime, even one you believe has no apparent victim has either a lateral victim who pays for the event or a previous victim to allow the event to take place.

there is always a victim.

now if you said to legalize lesser drugs, regulate and tax them like cigarettes or alcohol then i would agree with you 100%. but currently the use of them, although seemingly without victims, has caused many people collateral damage not immediately apparent to the users.

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Re: Parole..
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2008, 12:18:12 AM »
what percentage of imprisoned people do you suspect of being innocent?  1%?  5%? 50%? 75%? 99%?

Give me an idea of what you are talking about here?

Everybody in prison is innocent!!!!!!! :cry

damn thought the liberals would have known that already!!!!! :huh


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Re: Parole..
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2008, 12:24:37 AM »
what percentage of imprisoned people do you suspect of being innocent?  1%?  5%? 50%? 75%? 99%?

Give me an idea of what you are talking about here?
It's more than you think. Google Henry Wade, DNA and innocent. That's just one DA.
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« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2008, 12:49:37 AM »
It's more than you think. Google Henry Wade, DNA and innocent. That's just one DA.

rpm don't kid yourself.
allot of these new DNA cases are smoke and mirrors with a twist of lucky fate for the inmates.

they are required by law to test the evidence as used in the trial samples, they are not allowed to collect current fresh samples from the inmate to test.

now knowing that prior to DNA testing in court cases the samples that were originally gathered were tested then stored but the procedure for storage was in no manner as stringent or reliable as those used today. DNA is very easy to contaminate, it only takes a touch with a dirty glove or a dirty petri dish or a million other things that could happen in a not so clean environment. most evidence is stored in a warehouse environment that is open access to anyone that wishes to inspect it. getting a court order for the viewing of evidence in a past trial is not difficult (this excludes drugs guns money ect). tampering or incompetence is a definite risk.

DNA has proved wondrous for the charging and convicting of modern crimes, but it comes at the cost of releasing those who were convicted in the past who have managed a windfall by having their lawyers, family or friends request a viewing and then later requesting a retest of the bodily fluid samples. DNA cannot be accepted for charging a crime but then rejected for appeal purposes.

if you don't believe how easy it would be to do this, file a petition with the court requesting a viewing of the trial evidence in a rape case from the mid to late nineties. use the excuse that you are doing a web based article on a particular type of crime that this one would be relevant to. once you have the court ordered approval in hand go to the DA or the police dept and give them the judges order. they will make you sign for it, then they will give you a box, tell you that you cannot remove any of the articles from the room, and leave you alone to do what you will. some, only a few will actually recheck the box against the inventory after you return it to be sure that all of the articles are present.

now this may have changed recently, but i know it could be done as recently as three years ago here in NH.
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2008, 12:54:46 AM »
time to end the war on drugs.

legalize it, tax it..

end of budget crisis and prison overcrowding.

besides.. we'll need room for the dissidents.
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Re: Parole..
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2008, 01:02:25 AM »
time to end the war on drugs.

legalize it, tax it..

end of budget crisis and prison overcrowding.

besides.. we'll need room for the dissidents.


if they are all stone what dissidents will there be?????
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