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« Reply #75 on: October 13, 2008, 10:30:02 AM »
Kitchen table economy? That would be similar to farmer's economy, since the common farmer was shaking his head a long time ago over imports being much more than exports WHILE our currency was overrated. That cannot work for long...I guess.
And I could never understand where those paperboys got their money from. Now I do, but it yet remains to be explained where the money went.
Arrrfffff.
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« Reply #76 on: October 13, 2008, 11:04:06 AM »
Yup.. here 'kitchen table economics' generally refers to simple, common sense fiscal habits.. like, 'don't spend more than you earn'.  The problem for most working folks on tight budgets as been that the cost of living (and inflation) goes up while wages do not.

Those crazy mortgages and wild credit card spending... that's not 'kitchen table economics'. ;)

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« Reply #77 on: October 13, 2008, 11:35:53 AM »
One big mistake they did here after unleashing the banks some years back, was to constantly jack up the interest rates in order to hold back consumption.
It didn't work, since that due to the insane rates, all paper pushes made insane money while it was a burden on businesses and houseowners that had loans in a certain range.
If you eat your cow, she won't milk.....you may have nice beef untill it's finished.
So, due to that, everybody has some trouble.
Consumption from my standpoint was crazy, and I, being on the low end of the wallet could see that very clearly.
Town is only half a mile away, so I go shopping by bike, bring the kids around the same way etc, - it sums up running cars for short distances. That said, my car is dead, so I don't even have one, but the missus does and that's enough.
People made fun of that with lines like "why don't you get yourself a proper 4WD" etc. My reply was "I am fit enough not to need tons of steel to move my ar$e one mile".
Now I meet the same ones when tanking their big cars and ask (with an evil grin): "What's the damage this time?"  :devil

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« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2008, 07:14:46 PM »
HOORAYYYYY!!!

The stock markets are back up. Everything is fine. Phew :aok

Nothing to see here people, please keep moving :rolleyes:

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« Reply #79 on: October 14, 2008, 04:58:46 AM »
European markets took a jump. What's up in USA and far east?
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« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2008, 08:55:17 AM »
Same.. up dramatically so far.

Could be the dead cat bounce.

Since 99% of the folks on main street equate the stock markets to the 'economy', everybody feels much better.

Reality is something else again.

It ain't over.
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« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2008, 11:01:34 AM »
Well, that jump is suspiciously high...well we'll see...
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« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2008, 11:08:04 AM »
Up 10% here today. Still a long way to go before its back to where it was but thats ok. Im expecting a slight dump again tomorrow when some want to secure todays wins but thats normal too.

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« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2008, 04:07:59 PM »
one can only hope.
Of course,its not like you gonna fight next war.

BTW.To be clear,it's Iceland asked Russia for help.
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« Reply #84 on: October 15, 2008, 05:41:53 AM »
That is confirmed.
I'm still a bit struck that they didn't accept the Norwegian loan in the spring though, it would have been better to start earlier. Norwegians do have a hand in today though as well as the international currency fund/bank.
BTW, we do some trade with Russia, and did quite some with the USSR DURING the cold war. My first 3 cars were Ladas, my shotgun is Baikal etc etc. The USSR bought fish mostly, and when the curtain fell, they still bought fish. Back in the late 90's I worked in a fish factory, and of a months catch, it all went to Russia and Japan, in some 50-50 %.
Here is a new news update:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7670808.stm
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« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2009, 08:56:08 AM »
News update.
Our long beyond last consumption date government has resigned.
At least something is happening :D
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« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2009, 09:42:50 AM »
Congrats! Hope you get a better one  :)

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« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2009, 02:30:21 AM »
Looks like we're getting a left government clapped together in a hurry and elections in may.
Their agenda looks ok to me.
A point of interest for a Norwegian is that those guys have a good connection with Norse politicians, and when the crisis was evident, they offered the government to lead a committee to Norway to negotiate about some aid. The offer was turned down.
Norse politicians and/or experts have been lecturing here recently about the possibility of Iceland joining the EU. That is something I am nervous about. Iceland and Norway should IMHO both stay out and tighten their bonds. IMHO Greenland-Iceland-Faroes-Norway should form their own zone.
Iceland joining the EU must look bad to the Norse, for it means that the control over our resources goes to Brusselles, so you guys would get EU as a western neighbour.
I told my wife that if we join the EU, I want to move out of the country, so you can sort of see my opinion on it. :devil
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Re: Iceland going bust? (Angus?)
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2009, 02:43:11 AM »
Im not very keen on the EU either. Having the Euro _could_  be nice. There are severl issues with joining the EU that i dont like, but having to share more resources *cough* oil *cough* fish is not something i like. We pay enough as it is for beeng part of the EEA.
Im guessing you want more control over your resources too. I know the american government like that fact that we are not a part of the EU and im guessing they feel the same way about Iceland staying out.

Euro = hmm yes at times i feel it would be a good thing
EU beaurocracy = notsomuch

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« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2009, 03:31:47 AM »
Im not very keen on the EU either. Having the Euro _could_  be nice. There are severl issues with joining the EU that i dont like, but having to share more resources *cough* oil *cough* fish is not something i like. We pay enough as it is for beeng part of the EEA.
Im guessing you want more control over your resources too. I know the american government like that fact that we are not a part of the EU and im guessing they feel the same way about Iceland staying out.

Euro = hmm yes at times i feel it would be a good thing
EU beaurocracy = notsomuch

One of the problems with the Euro is that it means you have to go to a one size fits all solution: that size is the German and French side - everyone else just has to lump it.