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Offline Grayeagle

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Talledega
« on: October 07, 2008, 02:12:40 PM »
Was almost a cliche race ..all the Talledega 'things' happened :)

The Big One .. twice .. tore the crap outta a lot of cars, no one hurt
(WTG NASCAR)
One driver was shaken up pretty good taking a hard turn into the wall
(he hit harder than Dale Sr. did at roughly the same angle .. no injuries but I bet he's gonna be sore awhile :)

Tony Stewart survived, wrecks and a last lap illegal pass by another driver
(the dood ignored the yellow line and pressed on ..his mistake..
..he shoulda gone outside, was the only legal move he had
as Tony was all over the the bottom groove protectin like crazy)

Even with the plates an all.. 197 at turn entry and 195 in the turns.
Comin up on havin to slow em down again looks like. (my opinion)

Seems like the tires are a problem ..they are throwing the entire tread off in one peice when they explode.
Very bad news ..the car goes ballistic and that chunk o tire is dangerous.
Was the direct cause of majority of wrecks.
Just all around sucked for a lotta drivers/teams.

All in all ..the Car of Tomorrow has been vindicated ..it is safer and the car is less of an equation in who wins ..
..the teams can't tweak it enough to get a major advantage, so it's strategy and driver skill..
..or lack of same ..that determines who wins.

Last big wreck was directly result of someone 'bump drafting' at the apex of a corner, and spinning Biffle out ..sheesh.
NASCAR told the drivers no bump drafting in the corners ..but ..some people's kids.
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 02:30:33 PM »
So how did Ricky Bobby do?
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 02:34:19 PM »
Do they always turn right, or is left?
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 02:35:28 PM »
Was in Talledega in 98 was a blast  :aok   :rock
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 02:37:23 PM »
Gray, this race probably saved me as a NASCAR fan.  I'm no fan of the COT but there was some really good racing in this one.  I may commit to watching NASCAR like I used to: every weekend.

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 03:11:59 PM »
Been once and I live 45 miles from the track...I doubt I ever go again unless it is to let me drive on the track.
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 03:21:19 PM »
All in all ..the Car of Tomorrow has been vindicated ..it is safer and the car is less of an equation in who wins ..
..the teams can't tweak it enough to get a major advantage, so it's strategy and driver skill..
..or lack of same ..that determines who wins.

 :furious The death of real racing.

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Offline MiloMorai

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 03:46:20 PM »
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Tony Stewart survived, wrecks and a last lap illegal pass by another driver
(the dood ignored the yellow line and pressed on ..his mistake..
..he shoulda gone outside, was the only legal move he had
as Tony was all over the the bottom groove protectin like crazy)

Should have put the bumper to Porkchop when he forcing him below the yellow. You can bet that is what Regan Smith will do the next time.

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 04:01:37 PM »
:furious The death of real racing.

Why even bother with brands at this point? They're all the same.
I always thought the point of racing was machine and man, not just man.  If everyone is driving the same thing, is it really racing or who can draft the best?

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 04:17:13 PM »
Very enjoyable race I thought as well. (big nascar fan)....COT was something I was hating to see come in. But , in this race AND a few others it has proven to be good for the racing aspect. Drivers are more able to move the car around and make moves they couldn't in the old cars.

Talladega was the usual wreck fest at a couple of points...but the racing all in all was very close...very competetive and thats waht NASCAR wants.

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 04:25:20 PM »
I thought it was a good race, much like the other 3 in the race to the chase. I'm very much glad that Tony Stewart got his first win on a track that he finish second, six times too, also on his last season before he moves onto Haas/Stewart racing.
The big one, twice, was a big factor in this race. It was what they were calling it "The Wild Card race" just because of that big one. The second one was a lot worse than the first one, because it took most of the chasers out. I think it was: Edwards, Jr., Biffle, Kenseth, and I think maybe Burton all involved in that second crash. Jimme Johnson did a heck of a job (even though I'm not a huge fan) trying to avoid all of those crashes, and losing a lap in the first 25 laps of the race. Denny Hamlin, hit the wall doing 190 and was sent to the local hospital, but he turned out OK. Jeff Gordan had a problem, but really don't remember what happend to him.
There was a lot of blown tires for no reason at all. The tire would just blow up, would not even give you a warning the driver that it was about to blow. I believe that it was due to how hot the Tire and the track got, and the rubber could not stand those types of temps. Also, it had to do with the wear of the tire and again, the heat of the track and tires. It caused one of those big ones, when one of the Red Bull teams tire blew up and hit another car, and caused a chain reaction. It also made Denny Hamlin hit the wall, and sent him to the hospital.
Now to the big controversy on the last lap pass. I think that it was the right call, you go 187 laps were you can't go below the yellow line and on the last lap its all out? What I didn't like was that he was placed 18th place because of going below the yellow line. Although he went below the yellow line to better his position, he should have stayed second place were he should have finished. I think that he should have went to the outside to fake Tony, and give his teammate, Paul Menard, to try and pass him, just before the start/finish line.
Now on to the points, Jimme Johnson played the conservative route after he saw that most of the chasers, were wrecked in that big one. bellybutton of right now Jimme is in the lead with a 72 point game, which for what it has been, a pretty big gap between first and second. If Jimme can have his good runs that he always does, then I guarantee another championship for Jimme Johnson again. After Jimme its Carl Edwards, now he has a bit of a climb to get back up to Jimme, doesn't mean that he can't make that climb to the top again. Biffle, who is in third, find it hard for him to win as of now, because of his points at the start of the chase, put him like 70 points back. He may have won two races in the chase already, but I think he may have to do more than 5, which is half of the chase, just to win the race. These guys on top are just to consistent for him to come in third every race. They either come in first or second, every race if the chase, except for this wild card race here at Talked.
From here, we move onto Lowe's Motor Speedway, a great race between the top three guys. Jimme Johnson, has won there four times in a row. Carl Edwards has won there once and Greg Biffle has always been strong there since he started. You can never forget Tony Stewart, hes been always strong there, hes won one race there, and has the momentum going into this race. As of now, I'm going to call that Jimme Johnson to dominate this race and increase his lead that he already has.
That pretty much sums up an in-depth report on whats happening on Nascar.
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 04:25:33 PM »
Been once and I live 45 miles from the track...I doubt I ever go again unless it is to let me drive on the track.
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Re: Talledega
« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2008, 04:57:58 PM »
Bosco, the tires blew because they were inflated over the recommended top pressure.

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2008, 05:08:55 PM »
I always thought the point of racing was machine and man, not just man.  If everyone is driving the same thing, is it really racing or who can draft the best?

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Re: Talledega
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2008, 05:12:16 PM »
I always thought the point of racing was machine and man, not just man.  If everyone is driving the same thing, is it really racing or who can draft the best?

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On superspeedways drafting is a HUGE part of it....So in a way I sort of agree....BUT...

If the cars are really close then driver is where it comes to play. Better drivers make moves and are able to do things others can't. Where as the old way....drivers with fast cars who couldn't do much else...would ride around drafting and that's it.
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