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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2008, 09:57:58 AM »
Clearly hitech is a cyber vampire that feeds on the tears of internet gamers hence the deliberate neutering of the p51 and luftwaffe rides to provide himself with a near infinite supply of meals.  Stop your crying fools! You're feeding the cyber darklord that is known as Hitech.


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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2008, 10:00:52 AM »
HiTech is an PUTZ.... and yes he did fly a real one a few times.... But he is still a Dweeb PUTZ!

PS: HiTech really dose like Ponies..... They just don't like him!
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2008, 10:32:37 AM »
Flat out disagree the Pony is under modelled.

Based on its weight, engine power, and wing area, and high speed wing design <, it seems to be fine.

Also, as has been pointed out, and experienced by anybody who spends any time in the MA, it is clearly one of the most succesfull designs in Aces High. When flown to its stregths, its a very capable fighter.

Is is perfect? no, it is not. Neither are any of the other ENY5 1944 rides, they ALL have drawbacks. Its a machine, thats all, it does not possess supernatural qualities.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2008, 10:35:16 AM »
Is is perfect? no, it is not. Neither are any of the other ENY5 1944 rides, they ALL have drawbacks. Its a machine, thats all, it does not possess supernatural qualities.

The Pony is 8 ENY.  Probably should be 5, but whatever, I'm not going to split hairs over 3 ENY points.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2008, 10:40:19 AM »
I stand corrected. Low ENY "1944-45" rides then. ENY value is just a subjective # decided on by HTC, as are "perk rides".
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2008, 11:04:20 AM »
Other that the F6F the P-51D  is the most stable dive-bombing fighter I have used. If you set your convergence right and can actually put rounds on target in one area for more than 1/2 second you can get a kill. Watch Steve or 0ldemon fly one and you'll be a believer. I get flashes of brilliance once in a blue moon. LAst night I killed 2 planes in less than 10 seconds in a pony. Both planes received less than 100 rounds apiece and broke apart. The first was a spit9 that I hit for a split second with all six guns in the right wing root. The second was a F6F that I racked the tail on a snapshot. I fired less than 150 rounds total and had 2 kills.

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #21 on: October 09, 2008, 11:23:24 AM »
Let's say the pony is undermodeled.. just for the sake of this discussion. I think were you increase the turn performance of the pony very much it would become an uber ride. Each plane needs to  have some balance to it.

 I personally believe the pony out turns a jug in the real world but only because of what I've read. Even so, I'd hate to have any plane clearly dominate the rest of the plane set.  A pony that turned sigificantly better than our current modeling would be such a plane, IMHO.

I'm no expert on modeling, I admit this so there is no sense in telling me what a fool I am.... I already know.   :aok

Let's not unbalance the arena by  creating an uber ride.

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #22 on: October 09, 2008, 11:25:45 AM »

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #23 on: October 09, 2008, 11:43:59 AM »
Just a few nuances I found about the P-51 that made it a killer plane for me:
  • Nose over view good.
  • GREAT visibility (bubble canopy).  Setting my views to take advantage of this was useful.


You forgot to mention that it has the new, secret see-through aluminium in the forward windshield frames  :lol

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #24 on: October 09, 2008, 11:44:26 AM »
Let's say the pony is undermodeled.. just for the sake of this discussion. I think were you increase the turn performance of the pony very much it would become an uber ride. Each plane needs to  have some balance to it.

 I personally believe the pony out turns a jug in the real world but only because of what I've read. Even so, I'd hate to have any plane clearly dominate the rest of the plane set.  A pony that turned sigificantly better than our current modeling would be such a plane, IMHO.

I'm no expert on modeling, I admit this so there is no sense in telling me what a fool I am.... I already know.   :aok

I though the whole point of ENY/Perks was for every aircraft to be modeled as faithfully as possible, and to perk the ones that are unbalancing.  Any knowing compromise with real world flight data is unjustified.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2008, 11:53:32 AM »
Uptown: Basically complaints come down to relative turn performance, according to tests the P-51 turned better than the Jug, Typhoon, and Tempest. It does not in game.

A Typhoon or a Tempest????  When was the last time you saw one of those things trying to turn?  :rofl :rofl :rofl

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #26 on: October 09, 2008, 11:54:35 AM »
Maybe he was thinking about this:

Maybe, but in the real world the Mustang wasn't the dog we have here. Our P-51D has porked flaps. Moreover, about the time the P-51D arrived, the 8th AF switched over to 150 octane fuel. With that, it was faster than the 109K-4 at almost all altitudes. Add to that; G-suits were entering service with the AAF, and were fully deployed by late summer.


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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #27 on: October 09, 2008, 11:55:22 AM »
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Any knowing compromise with real world flight data is unjustified.

I agree 100%

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #28 on: October 09, 2008, 11:57:39 AM »
I agree 100%

HiTech

so then you have real world data that shows the jug out turns a pony at low speed. I'd like to read about that.. can you tell me where to find it?
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2008, 12:04:48 PM »
I agree 100%

HiTech

You are just trying to get your post count up to Krusty's knowledge level.
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