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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #30 on: October 09, 2008, 12:17:01 PM »
HiTech has flown a P-51, I think he knows how it should handle.  It handles just fine ingame, only a moron couldn't rack up kills in one. :aok

completely misses the point. My only question was, is it or is it not under-modeled? I never said it handles bad or can't get kills in it.
Maybe he was thinking about this:

From this thread:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,249100.0.html


Yes this is why i wanted to know. BnZ also always posts about how under-modeled it is. And just because Hitech has flown one does not mean it is or isn't under-modeled.

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #31 on: October 09, 2008, 12:20:17 PM »
also, my post is not a whine or complaint....I'm just curious. No need for the flames you twits!
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #32 on: October 09, 2008, 12:22:18 PM »
See you think this is a sim. If it were there would be lead computing gun sights and more things to control like radiator flaps and such. There wouldn't be things that are left out or added for fairness.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2008, 12:22:36 PM »
Run tests yourself. Then Compare to tests and reports on real Stangs.  Then let us know your findings.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2008, 12:34:28 PM »
See rule #4
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2008, 12:35:19 PM »
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #36 on: October 09, 2008, 12:42:13 PM »
Hi tech constantly misspells P51...

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2008, 12:48:06 PM »
^_^ come now u can't try to link between a 90 mph crusing cessna to a 350 mph crusing mustang!
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2008, 01:02:07 PM »
about everyone I talk to in this game that knows anything about the P-51 will tell you that the pony in this game does not perform as it did in the real world. Is this in fact the case? And if so why would HTC do that?
I'd like to hear from someone on the HTC staff on this. :salute

No offense but this will only attract the armchair historians out of the woodwork. Hitech flew a p-51, at least that's what the guys here say. Don't know if it was an "original" or restored bird. Maybe a reno racer version, who knows. I would imagine that it wasn't the real thing being so old as they are now having to have so much replaced on them to take away from the authenticity of said p-51. I'm sure that from that ride or rides the flight model is completely piss perfect and true to the real thing as much as possible that can be recreated within the game engine as it is. Also, think that my wifes grandfather is more correct on the flight model of the F6F over the games version as he used to fly one himself in the pacific theatre, but that's for another post. Hard part for the game is to replicate the feeling of flight and speed as well.  If you have some sort of found manual or something that gives tactical diameters and things of that nature, please scan them and send them to hitech so they can look them over.  Who knows maybe you might have somethig that can bring the game closer to being a sim.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2008, 01:04:37 PM »
^_^ come now u can't try to link between a 90 mph crusing cessna to a 350 mph crusing mustang!

Why not... he consistantly links a 50 IQ to a 125 one. He's part of the 80th information services.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2008, 01:08:44 PM »
My only complaint on the pony would really torque people off when they discover that (according to the manifold gauge) the P51 has too much power. According to the book on the pony the engine could develop 61" of manifold pressure and had NO WEP. My other complaint is that the use of flaps is modelled wrong as I never heard of a mustang pilot saying that dropping one notch of flaps made his airplane shake like a paint mixer but of course its something I try not to do. I can live with it either way because in actual use none of these planes could use 100% engine power for the duration of a flight.

I certainly dont wish to see WEP removed because the pony has enough problems already.

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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2008, 01:24:22 PM »
LOL, sorry Hitech :)
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2008, 01:41:20 PM »
Widewing has posted a handful of threads and tests regarding this. I'd say he's more qualified than most everyone posting in this thread. You guys should use the search tool...
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2008, 01:50:24 PM »
Keep in mind also that in a real one when wep is engaged a cord was severed inside the plane and was only used in emergencies. It wasn't turned on and off like a button we have on our ch sticks. This kind of a one time use might be kind of cool to actually add to some of the planes that were built this way. I like the sum side of the game to get better even if its not uber.
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Re: HiTech no likes ponys?
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2008, 02:06:24 PM »
Ooops! I stand corrected! According to declassified DOD records comparing the P51B and F4U4 the P51B had a war emergency rating of 67" of manifold pressure. I am interested in why the pilots manual for the P51D says 61" and no WEP and the DoD says 67"?

EDIT: Reading further I see the DOD in 1944 contracdicted itself by one time stating the F4U-1 could manage 65" and another only 57" while also stating the P51B had 67" of WEP and later 61" maximum military and no WEP. Even official records are confusing.
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