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Offline RedTop

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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #30 on: October 13, 2008, 08:53:56 PM »
LSU shared it one year with Oklahoma. USC and LSU had hands on it as well one year. Below you will see that the SEC has been to the BCS  bowls less that others....and tho thier winning percentage may be better...a couple of those national champs. were shared. Now....as I said...the SEC is a good conference.....but they aint the only one.

BCS Bowl wins and appearances by conference

Conference W L Pct School(s)
ACC
4 different schools 1 9 .100 Florida State (1-5)
Maryland (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-2)
Wake Forest (0-1)

Big 12
7 different schools 6 8 .429 Texas A&M (0-1)
Nebraska (1-1)
Oklahoma (2-4)
Colorado (0-1)
Kansas State (0-1)
Texas (2-0)
Kansas (1-0)
Big East

6 different schools 6 4 .600 Syracuse (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-1)
Miami Fla. (3-1)
Pittsburgh (0-1)
West Virginia( 2-0)
Louisville (1-0)

Big Ten
7 different schools 8 9 .471 Wisconsin (2-0)
Ohio State (4-2)
Michigan (1-3)
Purdue (0-1)
Illinois (0-2)
Iowa (0-1)
Penn State (1-0)

MWC
1 school 1 0 1.00 Utah (1-0)

Pac-10
7 different schools 8 4 .667 UCLA (0-1)
Stanford (0-1)
Washington (1-0)
Oregon State (1-0)
Oregon (1-0)
Washington State (0-1)
USC (5-1)

SEC
6 different schools 11 4 .733 Tennessee (1-1)
Florida (3-1)
Alabama (0-1)
LSU (4-0)
Georgia (2-1)
Auburn (1-0)

WAC
2 different schools 1 1 .500 Boise State (1-0)
Hawaiʻi (0-1)
Independent
1 school 0 3 .000 Notre Dame (0-3)
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #31 on: October 13, 2008, 09:37:48 PM »
all i have to say is...GO BAMA!!!  :D
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #32 on: October 13, 2008, 09:56:17 PM »
LSU shared it one year with Oklahoma. USC and LSU had hands on it as well one year. Below you will see that the SEC has been to the BCS  bowls less that others....and tho thier winning percentage may be better...a couple of those national champs. were shared. Now....as I said...the SEC is a good conference.....but they aint the only one.

BCS Bowl wins and appearances by conference

Conference W L Pct School(s)
ACC
4 different schools 1 9 .100 Florida State (1-5)
Maryland (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-2)
Wake Forest (0-1)

Big 12
7 different schools 6 8 .429 Texas A&M (0-1)
Nebraska (1-1)
Oklahoma (2-4)
Colorado (0-1)
Kansas State (0-1)
Texas (2-0)
Kansas (1-0)
Big East

6 different schools 6 4 .600 Syracuse (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-1)
Miami Fla. (3-1)
Pittsburgh (0-1)
West Virginia( 2-0)
Louisville (1-0)

Big Ten
7 different schools 8 9 .471 Wisconsin (2-0)
Ohio State (4-2)
Michigan (1-3)
Purdue (0-1)
Illinois (0-2)
Iowa (0-1)
Penn State (1-0)

MWC
1 school 1 0 1.00 Utah (1-0)

Pac-10
7 different schools 8 4 .667 UCLA (0-1)
Stanford (0-1)
Washington (1-0)
Oregon State (1-0)
Oregon (1-0)
Washington State (0-1)
USC (5-1)

SEC
6 different schools 11 4 .733 Tennessee (1-1)
Florida (3-1)
Alabama (0-1)
LSU (4-0)
Georgia (2-1)
Auburn (1-0)

WAC
2 different schools 1 1 .500 Boise State (1-0)
Hawaiʻi (0-1)
Independent
1 school 0 3 .000 Notre Dame (0-3)


WRONG.  LSU never split with Choklahoma.  Only one year was the Championship shared, and it fuels the case that the media is full of S.

LSU won the BCS title in 2003 by beating a 1 loss Choklahoma team lead by a Heisman, Jason White.  However the media experts awarded their snob AP Championship to USC, and Coach "Please" Carrol for beating a two loss Michigan.  He claimed on the field after that game they should be the champ.  Whatever.  It can be debated that all three 1 loss teams deserved a shot(Ok. USC. and LSU)  But, they lost to Cal, and so...

The very next year Auburn went undefeated in the SEC but was left out of the title game so that Choklahoma could lift their skirts and let USC hang 55 on them.  Meanwhile, Auburn won a great game against a solid 2 loss Virginia Tech.  Was there a peep from the AP on splitting the championship....Hell no.  Did Tommy Tubberville cry that Auburn should have been given a split championship?  NO.

Maybe things will change, but currently the SEC owns...on the field.  Untill they lose a championship on the field, they are #1 in my book.

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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #33 on: October 13, 2008, 10:06:21 PM »
WRONG.  LSU never split with Choklahoma.  Only one year was the Championship shared, and it fuels the case that the media is full of S.

LSU won the BCS title in 2003 by beating a 1 loss Choklahoma team lead by a Heisman, Jason White.  However the media experts awarded their snob AP Championship to USC, and Coach "Please" Carrol for beating a two loss Michigan.  He claimed on the field after that game they should be the champ.  Whatever.  It can be debated that all three 1 loss teams deserved a shot(Ok. USC. and LSU)  But, they lost to Cal, and so...

The very next year Auburn went undefeated in the SEC but was left out of the title game so that Choklahoma could lift their skirts and let USC hang 55 on them.  Meanwhile, Auburn won a great game against a solid 2 loss Virginia Tech.  Was there a peep from the AP on splitting the championship....Hell no.  Did Tommy Tubberville cry that Auburn should have been given a split championship?  NO.

Maybe things will change, but currently the SEC owns...on the field.  Untill they lose a championship on the field, they are #1 in my book.
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #34 on: October 13, 2008, 10:40:43 PM »
or how texas moves to #1.  Texas sucks.


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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #35 on: October 13, 2008, 11:52:19 PM »
it comes to show that BCS poll is worthless.  Time to do a play off system.
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #36 on: October 13, 2008, 11:54:57 PM »
Sec 3 out of the last 5 national championships, case closed.




1998-present
Conference Championships Schools BCS Championship Game Record
SEC          4    LSU (2007 & 2003), Florida (2006), Tennessee (1998)
Big 12       2    Texas (2005), Oklahoma (2000)
Pac 10      1    USC (2004)
Big 10       1    Ohio State (2002)
Big East    1     Miami (2001)
ACC         1     Florida State (1999)



Didn't Michigan won or tide a national champ.  Or was that before 1998.
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #37 on: October 14, 2008, 12:24:35 AM »
A ranked UNC....  :cry bless them

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« Reply #38 on: October 14, 2008, 12:28:08 AM »
it comes to show that BCS poll is worthless.  Time to do a play off system.

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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #39 on: October 14, 2008, 12:33:41 AM »
but they somehow always manage to lose one game at the end of year to keep them out a championship game or winning it.  UCLA?  Standford?  How did you guys lose UCLA?  How can ANY team let one person tear them a new one in a national championship game?  Now lets talk about present USC.  How did you lose OSU?  Oh that right you lost because you couldn't stop one person with you "awesome" defence.  Then i wasn't impressed this weekend with the game.  Basically USC shouldn't be anywhere near the top 5.  You lose to an unranked OSU team that is bad and not mention you got pwned by them and still in the top 10?  USC is way over rated.  They will get owned by Penn St. at the rose bowl.

Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes

2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships

Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)

Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)

Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)

National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team

Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)  

Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience

49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games

12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame

USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)

A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10

No-longer-active winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
     -    Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
     -    Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games

Since-broken other winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10-record 34 overall games
     -    Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
     -    School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
     -    18 October games
     -    16 non-conference games
     -    16 games against AP Top 25 teams
     -    School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
     -    Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
     -    USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)


It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years?  And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.

I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years.  OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable.  Just ask Ohio St.


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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #40 on: October 14, 2008, 12:52:31 AM »
Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes

2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships

Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)

Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)

Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)

National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team

Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)  

Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience

49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games

12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame

USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)

A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10

No-longer-active winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
     -    Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
     -    Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games

Since-broken other winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10-record 34 overall games
     -    Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
     -    School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
     -    18 October games
     -    16 non-conference games
     -    16 games against AP Top 25 teams
     -    School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
     -    Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
     -    USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)


It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years?  And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.

I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years.  OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable.  Just ask Ohio St.


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Ack-ack, Impressive record, but those of us without Rosebowl colored glasses are arguing that the PAC-10 is, and has been weak.  It is unreasonable that a team that loses to an unranked team stays in the top 10(At this Point in the season).  Especially when they are ahead of teams with no loses, or even teams with 1 loss to a ranked team.

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« Reply #41 on: October 14, 2008, 01:13:46 AM »
Ack-ack, Impressive record, but those of us without Rosebowl colored glasses are arguing that the PAC-10 is, and has been weak.  It is unreasonable that a team that loses to an unranked team stays in the top 10(At this Point in the season).  Especially when they are ahead of teams with no loses, or even teams with 1 loss to a ranked team.
QFT.  So wait let get this right?  USC beat themselves?!?!?!?!  You sound like my parents and their USC homerness.  No OSU man handled you in every single aspect of the game.  They shutdown your offense outside of a two minute window.  They dominated in the trenches in both sides of the ball.  As for Penn St.  How does the past have anything to do w/ anything when you have new players every 4 years atleast.  This years rose bowl will be terrible.  Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are in down years and have been for a few years.  The Pac 10 has been in a downward slump for a about 3 years now.  UCLA is terrible inconsistant.  Washington and Washington St. Are bad and have been for 3 years.  Oregon is in a retooling year are dixon left.  Oregon State is a .500 team at best.  Cal is kinda meh.  Standford has some upside with Gerhart, and that offense, but nonthing to spectacular.  Arizona suck, what a surprise.  ASU probably the only other bowl team in the Pac 10.  Jsut to show what down year the pac 10 is in look at the conference record vs. mountian west.  terrible.  2003 shared championship, lol, no.
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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #42 on: October 14, 2008, 01:42:48 AM »
QFT.  So wait let get this right?  USC beat themselves?!?!?!?!  You sound like my parents and their USC homerness.  No OSU man handled you in every single aspect of the game.  They shutdown your offense outside of a two minute window.  They dominated in the trenches in both sides of the ball.  As for Penn St.  How does the past have anything to do w/ anything when you have new players every 4 years atleast.  This years rose bowl will be terrible.  Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are in down years and have been for a few years.  The Pac 10 has been in a downward slump for a about 3 years now.  UCLA is terrible inconsistant.  Washington and Washington St. Are bad and have been for 3 years.  Oregon is in a retooling year are dixon left.  Oregon State is a .500 team at best.  Cal is kinda meh.  Standford has some upside with Gerhart, and that offense, but nonthing to spectacular.  Arizona suck, what a surprise.  ASU probably the only other bowl team in the Pac 10.  Jsut to show what down year the pac 10 is in look at the conference record vs. mountian west.  terrible.  2003 shared championship, lol, no.

My God.  Someone please hand this man a water, and a brain transplant.

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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #43 on: October 14, 2008, 02:06:41 AM »
Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes

2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships

Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)

Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)

Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)

National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team

Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)  

Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience

49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games

12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame

USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)

A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10

No-longer-active winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
     -    Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
     -    Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games

Since-broken other winning streaks:
     -    Pac-10-record 34 overall games
     -    Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
     -    School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
     -    18 October games
     -    16 non-conference games
     -    16 games against AP Top 25 teams
     -    School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
     -    Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
     -    USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)


It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years?  And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.

I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years.  OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable.  Just ask Ohio St.


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Re: NCAA Rankings
« Reply #44 on: October 14, 2008, 02:23:41 AM »
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)

Great...The Heisman...another BS gauge of talent.

1989 Andre Ware Houston
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan
1992 Gino Torretta Miami (Fla)
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado
1995 Eddie George Ohio State
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan
1998 Ricky Williams Texas
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska
2002 Carson Palmer USC
2003 Jason White Oklahoma
2004 Matt Leinart USC
2005 Reggie Bush USC
2006 Troy Smith Ohio State
2007 Tim Tebow Florida

Guys, these were hypsman winners.  This award has a storied legacy, however it's luster has dimmed.