Author Topic: ostwind vs strat (Read 4320 times)

Citabria · « **on:** October 17, 2000, 07:01:00 AM »

it takes only 1 ostwind to:

destroy HQ
or
destroy an entire city
or
destroy any factory
or
destroy an entire airbase

just 1

[This message has been edited by Citabria (edited 10-17-2000).]

RAM · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2000, 07:03:00 AM »

And? take a CHog and kill the Ostwind.

(hew hew hew

)

------------------
Ram, out
Erg/JG26 homepage

You think you know the REAL RAM?

[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-17-2000).]

Missile · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2000, 07:54:00 AM »

Yeah...ain't it great....
Just think..1 Ostie can do all that...
Don't you just LOVE IT!!!!

Thanks for pointing that out.

Missile

Fishu · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2000, 08:32:00 AM »

Citabria has actually broke my personal record in complaining by now...

SKurj · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2000, 08:33:00 AM »

What sort of ammo did the Osty have?

Should it be this effective against buildings?

If it takes 20+k bombs just to flatten the radar building at HQ, how can an Osty with just 37mm rounds flatten it?

The damage model for Osty rounds (or all vehicles) against buildings should be changed!!
Targets like the Radar center at HQ, bunkers, etc I would assume to be HARDENED which I think would make them unscratchable with puny 37mm shells HE or AP.

SKurj

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2000, 08:43:00 AM »

Hi

Hi Citabria although I agree with all you say about the ostidweeb, I think you should stop wasting your time posting these things, Because most of the people dont care and unfortunately it doesnt seem the most important people care either.

thanks GRUNHERZ

Rojo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2000, 09:01:00 AM »

That's not true, Gunherz...I DO care

.

------------------
Sabre, a.k.a. Rojo
(S-2, The Buccaneers)

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2000, 09:40:00 AM »

I agree Cit.

The osty should be relegated to a defensive weapon. The current modeling in AH does not handle it well as an offensive weapon.

AKDejaVu

leonid · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2000, 10:30:00 AM »

Ya, i agree, cita. I'm trying to figure out if i can limit my attendance to historical scenarios - i tend to think of the main arena is just a big training area now. Unfortunately, time zones for SEA are all wrt the east coast

------------------
leonid, Kompol
5 GIAP VVS-KA, Knights

"Our cause is just. The enemy will be crushed. Victory will be ours."

Udie · « **Reply #9 on:** October 17, 2000, 11:13:00 AM »

Quote

Originally posted by Rojo:
That's not true, Gunherz...I DO care .

Pyro had some 37mm ammo at the con, and yes it would do alot of dammage to a building. I personaly think it should take 1 or 2 rounds of this stuff to explode a fuel tank and ammo bunker, but it takes ALOT. 1 of 37mm round to a support truss or beam in a hangar should take out that structural member lose 2 or 3 beams or trusses in a hangar and the whole thing will come down. Those rounds are HUGE the round itself would do the dammage without thinking about the explosives in it. Then it only takes a brave spit pilot to take out an ostwinds gun.

I think there is a good balance now, 2 nights in a row I've been in great land battles with all vehicles there. I haven't seen this much ground activity since they first gave us tanks. As for the ammo, there has to be that much for me. I get 1 hit for about every 200 rounds fired

Udie

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #10 on:** October 17, 2000, 03:41:00 PM »

Hi

Udie the 109 only has 60 rds of 30mm and I cant often hit with it, should it have more?
1000rds seems a pretty arbitrary number, I think the real ammo load was closer to 400 or 500. Plus it doesnt model the time it might take to put in a new strip of ammo after 10 or 12 rds as had to be done in RL, the way it is in here its a belt fed weapon.
Its behavior is just not realistic. And if it can destroy a HQ all by itself that just bizzare. You buff experts how many thousands of pounds are required to kill an HQ? Well divide that number by a thousand to see what the minimum explosive effect of a single 37mm must be in here. If it takes 10k to kill a HQ that means that each 37mm has a destructive effect equivant to 10 pounds of explosive. In other words the 37mm fires a 10 pound HE shell. The Panthers 75mm KwK42/L70 fired a 5.74kg HE shell which is 12.6 pounds. The numbers just dont add up if a single osti can kill the whole HQ. Sorry, it all just sucks too much!
HTC There are some real number comparisons for you fellas.

thanks GRUNHERZ

[This message has been edited by GRUNHERZ (edited 10-17-2000).]

AKSeaWulfe · « **Reply #11 on:** October 17, 2000, 04:21:00 PM »

I believe it's 24K to kill the HQ Grunherz.
-SW

LJK Raubvogel · « **Reply #12 on:** October 17, 2000, 04:27:00 PM »

Ostwind
Weight:25000kg

Crew:6 men

Engine:Maybach HL 120 TR 112 / 12-cylinder / 272hp

Speed:38km/h

Range: Road: 200km
Cross-Country: 130km

Capacity:470 liters

Width:2.95m

Height:3.00m

Armament: 37mm Flak 43 L/89
2 x 7.92mm MG
(1 x MG34 - hull)
(1 x MG 34/42 - carried inside)

Ammo:37mm - 1000 rounds
7.92mm - 1350 rounds

Armor (mm/angle):Front Turret: 25/37
Front Superstructure: 80/10
Front Hull: 80/12
Side Turret: 25/30
Side Superstructure: 30/0
Side Hull: 30/0
Rear Turret: 25/30
Rear Superstructure: 20/11
Rear Hull: 20/9
Turret Top / Bottom: open
Superstructure Top / Bottom: 12/85-90
Hull Top / Bottom: 10/90
Gun Mantlet: 25/round

------------------
LJK_Raubvogel
LuftJägerKorps

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #13 on:** October 17, 2000, 04:28:00 PM »

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOO At least we can rest assured now that the Ostwind is accurate because we all know that the 37mm HE charge was at least 24 pounds! Yea Joy for all!!!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #14 on:** October 17, 2000, 04:38:00 PM »

1000rds it is I just checked somewhere new and it supports that number. But its still dont say nothing bout no 24 pound shell.

Author Topic: ostwind vs strat (Read 4320 times)

Rojo

AKSeaWulfe

LJK Raubvogel