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A Film to bust the Myth...
« on: October 21, 2008, 08:13:07 AM »
http://www.mediafire.com/?jzetmwmfytx

Here's a Film that proves tanks can be downed with MG gun fire if hit directly in it's weakspots for periods of time. at 0-40 seconds of the film it shows me gunning down a Panzer from the rear at it's weakpoint.

Slow down the film to about X40 and you'll be able to watch it slow fully but carefully.  :salute

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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2008, 10:19:23 AM »
Could be wrong maj but I think it was nme GV that kills it . If you even ping it you get an assist .   :salute sir

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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 11:07:49 AM »
I have never got an assist from a GV that I rocketed. I have killed a couple of tanks and osti's that way but you have to hit it dead on and there is a very high chance of it bouncing off instead. I gave up trying to kill hvy armor with rockets months ago. Light armor is a different story.

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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 11:50:45 AM »
Thats what the GVers are complaining about. You can't kill a Panzer with MG, but you can rack up a ton of hits. Then when another GV kills it, you get the kill (seeing you loaded up on so many hits) and he only gets an assist. I'm not sure, but I don't think you can kill panzers with rockets either, but you might be able to build the hits the same.

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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2008, 12:27:13 PM »
It's the way kills are recorded period. Damage TYPE doesn't take the precedence it should. Same thing happens the other way around with planes. A guy might land a 20mm shell somewhere on a Spitfire that keeps flying with no damage whatsoever, then someone with MGs takes off his wing and loses the kill to the cannon shell.
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2008, 04:39:37 PM »
More power to you if you can kill a panzer with mg.  Only time I shoot at tanks with mg is when defending alone! If you want to kill the gv with guns up an IL2. As for being in a gv trying to kill other gvs. Seeing a spitfire strafing the guy your aiming at is lame. But its also lame to cry and fight about cartoon kills IMO. :aok
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2008, 07:36:12 PM »
The film clearly shows the first panzer was hit by a round and lost his turret.  The fact he towered out while you were attempting to steal the kill is coincidence.

If you really want to test this, you need someone to up a panzer in a quiet area where you and he are the only two nearby.  You BOTH need to film you strafe him dead with your 50s.  If you really did it, it will say in his text buffer "you have been killed."

Absent that, you are perpetuating the myth with this film, not busting it.
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2008, 07:36:42 PM »
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 I'm not sure, but I don't think you can kill panzers with rockets either, but you might be able to build the hits the same.

Yer u can.  I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed.  3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up.  F6f works well for me.




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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2008, 12:48:47 AM »
I killed a Panzer with a single HVAR once. I lost my tail in a TBM and was flat-spinning to my death. For the heck of it, I let them loose. Since AH rockets launch in line with the flight path of the plane and not where the rail is pointed, it shot straight down for about 1,500 ft and whacked him.
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2008, 01:24:10 AM »
http://www.mediafire.com/?jzetmwmfytx

Here's a Film that proves tanks can be downed with MG gun fire if hit directly in it's weakspots for periods of time. at 0-40 seconds of the film it shows me gunning down a Panzer from the rear at it's weakpoint.

Slow down the film to about X40 and you'll be able to watch it slow fully but carefully.  :salute

All I see you you getting a lot of ricochets on a panzer while he towers out. I did see a few hits to the track but you didn't kill him. And it shows on the second panzer you did around six strafing runs and only got his pentle gun.

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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2008, 04:05:36 AM »
I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.

If I'm in a gv and see fighters strafing gvs I'll ignore any flaks and just concentrate on tanks - its hard to killsteal when you've had a face full of 20mm from a wirble :P
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2008, 05:34:52 AM »
Yer u can.  I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed.  3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up.  F6f works well for me.

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Is AH rocket size ok? I thought they were smaller or is panzer really so small? :confused:
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2008, 06:13:38 AM »
I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.

Negative.  It is the damage done, ore more precicely: The amount of damage points inflicted on that tank.

Ahh, I know why this happens.  It's the tracks.  They are a damageable component and can soak up a large quantity of damage from light cannon and MG which unbalances the kill awarding.  I'll have to see if there's a way that HT can alter the awarding of GV kills to take that into account.
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2008, 06:14:33 AM »
I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.

If I'm in a gv and see fighters strafing gvs I'll ignore any flaks and just concentrate on tanks - its hard to killsteal when you've had a face full of 20mm from a wirble :P
im gonna start doin that now. thanks for the idea! :lol
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Re: A Film to bust the Myth...
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2008, 07:09:21 AM »
Yer u can.  I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed.  3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up.  F6f works well for me.

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