The next fighters to be added to AHII.

[Wmaker]

I don't think I've ever really posted my own planelist before, only replied in threads started by others. I know all these fighters have been discussed extensively over the years on this forum but now with pyro's development update it is more reasonable to talk about what aircraft deserve to be added in the next few versions featuring new fighters.

Well, here is the list of fighters in alphabetical order that I think should be annded in the span of next few versions:

KI-43-IIb
KI-44-IIb / (IIc)
LaGG-3 Series 66
Yak-1b
Yak-3
Yak-7b
Yak-9



KI-43-IIb

Most important JAAF fighter of the war with almost 6000 produced. AHII has only two JAAF fighters, KI-43 is a clear candidate for the next Japanese aircraft to be added. There is a huge need for it in the special events and AvA. It would also be very interesting EWA-arena aircraft.

KI-44-IIb / IIc

Probably the least "needed" aircraft on my list. A beautiful aircraft. Around 1200 produced, with the KI-43 it would broaden the JAAF planeset further and add more variety. The more rare IIc version could see viable use in the LWMAs and with the extremely low velocity 40mm Ho-301 cannon loadout would add something very different, fun, challenging and rewarding at the same time, to the AHII planeset. The more common IIb variant would be very wellcome for the Special Events, AVA and MWMA.

LaGG-3 Series 66
Yak-1b
Yak-3
Yak-7b
Yak-9

Eastern front was the longest landfront of the war and over it raged a huge air war. Very different from the air war in the western front but just as big, if not bigger in many instances. Lavochkin, Yak-1/3 and Yak-7/9 series of fighters were just as important for the VVS as the P-38, P-47 and P-51 series of fighters were for the USAAF. Right now, we have 9 aircraft covering those USAAF fighters and only 4 covering those VVS fighters. And, with the exception of La-5FN, all those Soviet fighters AHII has are "late-in-the-war" somewhat unrepresentive examples of the total production. With the non existant Soviet level bomber and KI-43 the lack of these VVS fighters is easily the biggest hole in the current planeset. I don't think anyone could imagine a situation where AHII would still totally miss one of the 3 major USAAF ETO-fighters while having only 4 variants to divide between the two that AHII actually would have!! That is the situation where these VVS fighters are in right now. We have none from the Yak-1/3 -series and have only two variants per series for the other two. And they saw MASSIVE amounts of action more or less right from the start of Great Patriotic War (starting with Yak-1 and LaGG-1) to the end and were produced in tens of thousands.

These fighters would be a huge help in designing future scenarios, snapshots, AvA setups and would actually bring VVS-fighters to the EWA. Yak-3 would be a great LWMA-aircraft while the earlier Yaks would see some use aswell.

Here are some of the numbers produced:

"When production ceased a total of 6,528 LaGG-3 of sixty-six different production batches had left the four State Aircraft Factories between January of 1941 and Spetember of 1943."

"Production of the Yak-1 series was phased out in the summer of 1944. By that time, some 8,666 of them had been built."

"A total of 6,399 Yak-7s of all types were built before production ended in early 1943..."

"A total of 16,769 Yak-9 fighters was built in all by the time production ceased in 1947"

"Yak-3 production was shut down in 1946. 4,848 were built in all, with 737 of these delivered after the war."

Sources for the production numbers:
http://www.vectorsite.net/avyak1.html
LaGG fighters in Action, ISBN 0-89747-364-7


 

[Masherbrum]

I.A.R. 81c

[Nilsen]

See list below and pick from it. I know HTC uses me for info when making new rides 

[Cthulhu]

Wishlist Forum?

[Angus]

I think they's begin with MA stuff.
P63 is MA stuff
A-26 is MA stuff
A Beaufighter would be MA stuff. (Torp carrying-cannon armed AND with rockets)
And a Pe-2, or was it Tu-2???

Then you go for scenarios, - well then first comes the need for the Oscar and the early Russian fighters to patch in those areas, notably the I-16!!!
Early Europe would need a D-520, and perhaps a Fokker?
The med would need the Beau, and some more Italian Iron

Just my $

[Bronk]

I think they's begin with MA stuff.
P63 is MA stuff
A-26 is MA stuff
A Beaufighter would be MA stuff. (Torp carrying-cannon armed AND with rockets)
And a Pe-2, or was it Tu-2???

Then you go for scenarios, - well then first comes the need for the Oscar and the early Russian fighters to patch in those areas, notably the I-16!!!
Early Europe would need a D-520, and perhaps a Fokker?
The med would need the Beau, and some more Italian Iron

Just my $

There are 4 MAs. Early, mid and 2 late. A fattened up early plane set would attract more to that arena.

[1Boner]

Next plane is a simple choice really-------- KI-84lb 

[1pLUs44]

I think they's begin with MA stuff.
P63 is MA stuff
A-26 is MA stuff
A Beaufighter would be MA stuff. (Torp carrying-cannon armed AND with rockets)
And a Pe-2, or was it Tu-2???

Then you go for scenarios, - well then first comes the need for the Oscar and the early Russian fighters to patch in those areas, notably the I-16!!!
Early Europe would need a D-520, and perhaps a Fokker?
The med would need the Beau, and some more Italian Iron

Just my $

Would probably need a perk.... I vote... RUSSIAN PLANE SET RELEASE NEXT! 

[Gixer]

Update the existing Yaks first is by far my first preference, after that then yes definitely the Yak-1B and Yak-3 would be very welcome additions. 


<S>...-Gixer

[moot]

Isn't the 9M supposed to be an easy and worthwhile addition?

[Boozeman]

KI-44-IIb / IIc

Probably the least "needed" aircraft on my list. A beautiful aircraft. Around 1200 produced, with the KI-43 it would broaden the JAAF planeset further and add more variety. The more rare IIc version could see viable use in the LWMAs and with the extremely low velocity 40mm Ho-301 cannon loadout would add something very different, fun, challenging and rewarding at the same time, to the AHII planeset. The more common IIb variant would be very wellcome for the Special Events, AVA and MWMA.

I have to say, this is probably the most needed aircraft on your list, with further adding the -44-Ia. While the -43 may have the higher production numbers, it does not expand the capabillities of the japanese planeset, since it pretty much exactly fits into the A6M flight envelope, but with much less firepower. The -44 on the other hand would give the japanese planeset a more interceptor/B&Z like aircraft in EWA and MWA. Something we actually only have in the LWA with the N1K.

The -44 would also be much more competetive in MWA and LWA and it's also very useful for scenarios.     

[zuii]

KI84 Ib ---- KI84 Ic

 




zuii

[KD303]

Ahhh...I was ogling (is that a word) a Yak 9 at the war museum here in Kiev last weekend. The only one I've ever seen. Very tasty, though a bit battered. Yep, I'd like to see that updated here.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/129/356249796_e7cc7b578c_o.jpg

other than this one, which is inside the museum building

http://community.webshots.com/photo/fullsize/2483596510052000287oAxoBT

These aren't my pics BTW

[mipoikel]

Dont listen wmaker when he is drunk.

Actually only plane he wants is Brewster.

[Noir]

+1, I'm always in for VSS fighters