Disappointed Customer

[Phil]

Just want to say...

Lets not forget that we have a good FLIGHT SIM game here !
We have a "full plate" and we are still complaining / whining ? 

Any computer game, you will always have room for improvement.
Time heals many things. We have a right to express concerns BUT we have to understand HT's side of things. Things are being done for certain reasons...

They have accomplished lots...
Salute to the team !

Phil / OPP7755

[skribetm]

was wondering what game engine aces high 2 used, the DX model, shader number. any chance theyd be using the newer game engines? i think the graphics can go a lot better. i love the mid level clouds that are close to the ground, around 4-5k, very surreal. the one at 15k should be a little thicker and not uniform all throughout. i dont recall seeing that kind of cloud cover at 15k. but hey, great job so far HTC. but i still complain why 40 M8 hits on a wirbles' turret doesnt kill it? i only get assists!

sample engine that I LOVE and is multi-platform, DX9:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frostbite_Engine

http://developer.amd.com/assets/Andersson-Tatarchuk-FrostbiteRenderingArchitecture(GDC07_AMD_Session).pdf

wonder how much it costs to license this or if it is even available for licensing. just an idea what better graphics are available out there.. lastly, you wouldn't need a top-of-the-line PC to run this engine, it only needs an old model R600 series ATI card, Radeon 2000-3000.

[patspartyvan]

I will resist the temptation to address some who have posted in this thread so far.
Many of your comments digress from the subject then make personal and judgemental type comments.
I posted with a shade yes…and in reflection feel it was a reasonable expression of my frustration given recent gossip then announcements. However look at the posts some of you put your names to…
As a result I reserve the right to berate you later.

An analogy perhaps…to help those in the line of players that await their turn at the front of the line kissing HTC backsides then return to the back of the line where they criticise anybody that won’t join the line.

I pay for my three course meal on a regular basis. I love the restaurant and the chef has a progressive menu that steadily increases in depth. Although the restaurant is not the prettiest nor is the menu the most fully featured the food is solid and the place has a good vibe (still some tools but you get those in any crowd).  Then the chef says he’ll add an extra buffet to the menu. In the meantime the regular menu variety will be cut down while they work on the new buffet. Then after remaining a patron throughout the cutback menu I hear though word on the grapevine after talk round some campfire that there will be no buffet. Chef needs to go back to the kitchen and fix the basic routine up. Then there is official notice from the kitchen that the rumour is true…no buffet. There is official word (like there was of the buffet) that some things can be salvaged from the buffet menu and the old menu will come back just like it was before…you know yeah it’s a while like it was way back then.
Some say that’s ok we never had a buffet so it’s no loss.
Others say it’s great we can get back the old way things are done.
And I shall bite my tongue n’ say no more at this time.

Pat not Malone

[moot]

An analogy perhaps…to help those in the line of players that await their turn at the front of the line kissing HTC backsides then return to the back of the line where they criticise anybody that won’t join the line.

Like you just did?

[patspartyvan]

Like I just did?
Sir I neither joined that line nor was critical of those not wanting in on the brown nose line

[moot]

Your brown nose line is the disgruntled "where's my entitlement" customer circle jerk. 
It's just a game. HTC are doing their best. That's the best you could ask from them.

[patspartyvan]

I feel that you miss my point about the line and those in it.... its about the culture of trying to bash those that ever dare to even hint at criticism of HTC in any way.

And all that i asked for was...'Please keep us informed at least monthly of progress on terrain upgrades, character animation, H2H and any other dated parts of the game engine that you may be ‘overhauling’.'

[moot]

Well, you're safe behind the shade. Go ahead and give an example of these people, and show they're so prevalent as to warrant this rant. 

[SD67]

I never subscribed for the promise of CT.
I never kept my subscription going for 6 months of inactivity for the promise of CT.
I did both because this is without a doubt the best MMOL flight sim I've ever seen. I stumbled across it when I was searching for combat simulators and being MMOL wasn't even a requirement. I was hooked within the first few days and started subscribing after one week.
I don't feel ripped off one bit. Am glad that HTC have decided to dedicate more time and resources to development of the core game? You bet your sweet bellybutton I am!

[JimmyC]

is tongue on the menu......mmmmmm

[bmwgs]

I think the decision to stick with the basics and main game is a good one.  I lived through the evolution of a great game, Delta Force/Black Hawk down by Novalogic.  It had a great following and was a First Person Shooter.  Then Nova got a great idea and developed Joint Ops.  It added tanks, Personnel carriers, ATV's Dirt bikes, boats, choppers etc.  It seemed like a great game at first but was full of bugs.  Nova couldn't keep up with it and wound up losing their loyal base. AHII should remain a flight sim primarilly.  Tanks and other land vehicles are cute but it isn't what the loyal players signed up for.

I consider myself a loyal player, and  I perfer GVs  like many others.  Not sure where you are getting your information from.

I think you would be surprised of the number of  dedicated GV players.

Just my opinion,

Fred 

[LYNX]

patspartyvan
or who ever, doesn't much matter to me.  Another analogy would be to stay with a nagging wife in the hope she stops nagging.  If AHII was the nagging wife and CT was the hope then I could understand your disappointment.

I think HTC deserves a little slack here.  OK, it hasn't panned out like they thought.  Did they deliberately set out to court your affections with false promises or were they genuine of their initial courtship.

Lots change in time mate.  Sure it's disappointing but not everything goes to plan.  Hindsite is a wonderfull thing but like yours I'm sure HTC's balls ain't crystal. 

Personally I'm disappointed that their efforts were focused on CT rather than the core game but from it we will see further developments and I think it's fair to understand HTC's position, as a small business. 

Objectively

1)HTC shouldn't do a blogg locked or otherwise.  Folk will only make a thread of it and as previously stated... "are we there yet".
2)We're in for the long haul again.  These changes / developments will take time to implement.
3)Don't expect any new planes to soon  they are going to re-do the game engine to align with technology.  Going to give the CM's some new toys which can only enhance FSO's and scenario's.  (bet CM's load in some bad bellybutton AI fighters )
4)Expect to see some energy / focus put on the expanded old 8 player as AH goes head to head with IL-2. (good luck HTC..good move ) 
5)Expect to see AH multi functional and not just the MA's. By that I mean to say, reading through the lines, that they are going to cater for everyone.  Us old die hards in the MA's.  Graphic hungry scenario players in expanded (more than 8  ) old 8 player & special events.

[Masherbrum]

Well, you're safe behind the shade. Go ahead and give an example of these people, and show they're so prevalent as to warrant this rant. 

He won't, because his haven't dropped yet. 

[SNIPER30]

IN

[442w30]

HTC's customer service is outstanding....skuzzy has allways been very helpfull


As far as the death of TOD or CT whatever you want to call it, I am disappointed because I was looking forward to some high altitude combat.  If you have ever had a dogfight at 28,000 ft you understand just how challenging it is.  Sadly I guess we are stuck flying in the trees for all eternity.  I credit HTC for trying hard and dreaming "big".  Unlike Air Warrior which never tried to do anything for anybody.
I salute HTC.


<plays Taps for TOD>

Helm ...out

Helm have you checked out FSO?  Lots of 20k+ action in there.