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Offline The Fugitive

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #75 on: November 01, 2008, 09:55:32 AM »
I will resist the temptation to address some who have posted in this thread so far.
Many of your comments digress from the subject then make personal and judgemental type comments.
I posted with a shade yes…and in reflection feel it was a reasonable expression of my frustration given recent gossip then announcements. However look at the posts some of you put your names to…
As a result I reserve the right to berate you later.

An analogy perhaps…to help those in the line of players that await their turn at the front of the line kissing HTC backsides then return to the back of the line where they criticise anybody that won’t join the line.

I pay for my three course meal on a regular basis. I love the restaurant and the chef has a progressive menu that steadily increases in depth. Although the restaurant is not the prettiest nor is the menu the most fully featured the food is solid and the place has a good vibe (still some tools but you get those in any crowd).  Then the chef says he’ll add an extra buffet to the menu. In the meantime the regular menu variety will be cut down while they work on the new buffet. Then after remaining a patron throughout the cutback menu I hear though word on the grapevine after talk round some campfire that there will be no buffet. Chef needs to go back to the kitchen and fix the basic routine up. Then there is official notice from the kitchen that the rumour is true…no buffet. There is official word (like there was of the buffet) that some things can be salvaged from the buffet menu and the old menu will come back just like it was before…you know yeah it’s a while like it was way back then.
Some say that’s ok we never had a buffet so it’s no loss.
Others say it’s great we can get back the old way things are done.
And I shall bite my tongue n’ say no more at this time.

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SO the "chef" while fully intending to build his buffet can not get some of the ingredients for his buffet, and sees his kitchen not running as smoothly as he would like cancels his buffet and re-engages fully in his main menu. This you know will improve the main menu and help you to enjoy your meals more. How could you feel "wronged"?

The announcement was given by the owner of the company at the convention, and then announced the second "workday" after the convention (they needed a day to correct the spelling). So you feel slighted because you didn't get the world with the con goers. Lifes rough! Thats one of the pluses of going to the con, getting inside info, early release info, and general BS info. So lets take it out on HTC for giving those people who went over and above in there support by attending the con in these money strapped times the info first.

Also by hiding behind a shade it take a bunch of "credibility" AWAY from anything you have to say on the boards. You said "However look at the posts some of you put your names to… As a result I reserve the right to berate you later. ". While some of the posts that have been posted may have been asinine, or stupid, at least those people signed their statements and stand behind them. You on the other hand must hide behind your shade and shout drivel to the masses and expect reasonable responses.

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #76 on: November 01, 2008, 10:23:23 AM »
And all that i asked for was...'Please keep us informed at least monthly of progress on terrain upgrades, character animation, H2H and any other dated parts of the game engine that you may be ‘overhauling’.'

Ummm... isn't that exactly what they do when they announce new additions to the game via the homepage of the web-site?

Those annoucements in some cases are being made 4-6 weeks in advance and just look at the anticipation when they are made.  The BBs lights up. 

Now those are solid announcements.  The work is largely done as they post screen shots as previews.  Imagine the backlash if one of those never materialized in the game.  And now you want them to annouce "future" plans monthly and suffer more threads like this one?  I bet they learned their lesson with CT.
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2008, 10:52:18 AM »
I've complained of the same thing, well almost the same thing...
Updates come very slow, and each vehicle/aircraft is a breath of fresh air... BUT they come SO slowly.... hell the temp still has no stick in the cockpit, and the b26's gear STILL dives through the concrete under breaking, and we cant seem to get a control yoke in the B-26 which i love to fly very much.
I believe the f4f's gear still dissapears when its retracted, and the ju88 still looks like a plane out of the Atari era...

Lots of money flowing, and not much action, and when there is an update it is made heavily on the side of fantasy
(i.e. the m4 of death introduced with the british gun, when the t34 was introduced with a pea shooter)

Still not an A-26 in this game, still not bigger bomber hangers, and STILL not a B-29 without the nuke and perked heavily...
Im just saying there are alotof war winners that just havent made it in.

And Ct is gone...GONE????? wtf?
Guys we pay alot of money to play this game, and I enjoy it, but this lawn chair action has to stop, and I think with 9 months of heavy revamp we could have somthing truly GREAT.
but what do I know......? im just a poge
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #78 on: November 01, 2008, 10:54:38 AM »
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #79 on: November 01, 2008, 10:58:50 AM »
Still not an A-26 in this game, still not bigger bomber hangers, and STILL not a B-29 without the nuke and perked heavily...
Im just saying there are alotof war winners that just havent made it in.

Arms-race mentality.
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #80 on: November 01, 2008, 11:53:16 AM »
I've complained of the same thing, well almost the same thing...
Updates come very slow, and each vehicle/aircraft is a breath of fresh air... BUT they come SO slowly.... hell the temp still has no stick in the cockpit, and the b26's gear STILL dives through the concrete under breaking, and we cant seem to get a control yoke in the B-26 which i love to fly very much.
I believe the f4f's gear still dissapears when its retracted, and the ju88 still looks like a plane out of the Atari era...

Lots of money flowing, and not much action, and when there is an update it is made heavily on the side of fantasy
(i.e. the m4 of death introduced with the british gun, when the t34 was introduced with a pea shooter)

Still not an A-26 in this game, still not bigger bomber hangers, and STILL not a B-29 without the nuke and perked heavily...
Im just saying there are alotof war winners that just havent made it in.

And Ct is gone...GONE????? wtf?
Guys we pay alot of money to play this game, and I enjoy it, but this lawn chair action has to stop, and I think with 9 months of heavy revamp we could have somthing truly GREAT.
but what do I know......? im just a poge
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #81 on: November 01, 2008, 06:24:12 PM »
Arms-race mentality.

I believe that's how wars are won? Countries with fewer planes, fewer tanks, fewer batleships didn't win WWII. And AH2 offering itself as a "premier WWII combat experience" should include at the minimum the prominent armaments that were available during the war. How can it be a premier WWII experience when you can't experience the nuke blast in your base!!!!

People like me(blow-up stuff mentals) who don't last 2.38secs in a dogfight and get shot down after 1 turn(run into a tree) should have the option to spend 500 perks on a nuke to even things up a bit!

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #82 on: November 01, 2008, 10:06:47 PM »
add b29 and nukes = ruin game

you kids are xbox dorks  :salute
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #83 on: November 01, 2008, 10:39:07 PM »
add b29 and nukes = ruin game

you kids are xbox dorks  :salute

I think these 40 guys are little more than troll, here and in the MA.  Something not quite right with them.

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #84 on: November 01, 2008, 10:46:40 PM »
add b29 and nukes = ruin game

you kids are xbox dorks  :salute

.. your personal opinion is obviously only one of hundreds that matter. i would appreciate if you could offer a more substantive response than a hollow statement and a name-call to end it. and how is my post a troll?

it seriously reflects poorly on your name, and more importantly your squad. calling kids "dorks" doesnt really set a good example does it.

from your code of conduct page: "Members of the squadron should always strive to promote the 412th Fighter Squadron in a positive manner.."

i know there's more serious name calling on channel 200, and frankly i blow off and do worse to bullys when i'm hit with it (ask sunsfan). furthermore, i know i shouldn't expect much from interweb social interactions, as it mostly is cheap, save for the few relationships that i develop that are meaningful.

again, respect and  :salute to everyone.

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #85 on: November 01, 2008, 10:48:41 PM »
I think these 40 guys are little more than troll, here and in the MA.  Something not quite right with them.

wow, lynx, i expected better from you. having flown as a rook quite a few times and you being in the combat area. how is it that we are trolls? all of us? do you even know how i am trolling? here and in the MA?

you slander a squad and you dont even provide facts. come on. you've been accused of cheating in a previous thread, which i think is just preposterous. please don't make that persons mistake too.

and something not quite right with "them?" please save my squaddies, if theres something not right its me. im clinically schizophrenic, so on that note you are straight on target. like your IL2.

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #86 on: November 01, 2008, 10:59:11 PM »
I believe that's how wars are won? Countries with fewer planes, fewer tanks, fewer batleships didn't win WWII. And AH2 offering itself as a "premier WWII combat experience" should include at the minimum the prominent armaments that were available during the war. How can it be a premier WWII experience when you can't experience the nuke blast in your base!!!!

First off, Aces High is not a war.

Next up, we HAVE, for the most part, the 'prominent' armaments that were available during the war, for the United States. The US is the only country with not only 1, but 2 4 engined heavy bombers; the UK being the only other with any at all. The US also has the most medium bombers of any country in the game, as well as the most single engined light bombers, and all of its later fighters are premier ordinance haulers. What this game is missing the most is earlier aircraft, particularly bombers, from countries other than the United States. The prominent armaments from these areas are no where to be found.

Lastly,
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How can it be a premier WWII experience when you can't experience the nuke blast in your base!!!!
That never happened anywhere, any time, in any case, so it's a moot point.

And, just for a bit of personal advice,
People like me(blow-up stuff mentals) who don't last 2.38secs in a dogfight and get shot down after 1 turn(run into a tree) should have the option to spend 500 perks on a nuke to even things up a bit!
I'd suggest you'd learn to dogfight, so you can get the full worth of this game.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2008, 11:00:58 PM by Motherland »

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #87 on: November 01, 2008, 11:03:29 PM »
I play this game solely because of the fact I am interacting/fighting/laughing with other human beings.  There are many AI games out there that I would have pursued if I only wanted an offline experience.  CT never had any appeal for me and Im glad that HTC will focus on the reason I believe it has been successful where others failed.

Thanks for the game as it exists and for continuing to improve it!

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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #88 on: November 01, 2008, 11:04:44 PM »
I'm honestly not mad at HTC, but kinda disappointed that nothing came out of it. I WOULD like to see them implement those huge towns in a new map or something as like a GYNORMOUS tank town  :rock
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Re: Disappointed Customer
« Reply #89 on: November 01, 2008, 11:12:01 PM »
First off, Aces High is not a war.

Next up, we HAVE, for the most part, the 'prominent' armaments that were available during the war, for the United States. The US is the only country with not only 1, but 2 4 engined heavy bombers; the UK being the only other with any at all. The US also has the most medium bombers of any country in the game, as well as the most single engined light bombers, and all of its later fighters are premier ordinance haulers. What this game is missing the most is earlier aircraft, particularly bombers, from countries other than the United States. The prominent armaments from these areas are no where to be found.

Lastly,That never happened anywhere, any time, in any case, so it's a moot point.

And, just for a bit of personal advice,I'd suggest you'd learn to dogfight, so you can get the full worth of this game.

Sir: Prominent means:
   1.  Projecting outward or upward from a line or surface; protuberant.
   2. Immediately noticeable; conspicuous. See synonyms at noticeable.
   3. Widely known; eminent.

I don't know how you can think of WWII experience and not think of the atom bomb as a prominent symbol of that era.

As for the nuke blasts not happening and is a moot point(?): "Hiroshima was described as "an important army depot and port of embarkation in the middle of an urban industrial area. It is a good radar target and it is such a size that a large part of the city could be extensively damaged. There are adjacent hills which are likely to produce a focussing effect which would considerably increase the blast damage. Due to rivers it is not a good incendiary target." The goal of the weapon was to convince Japan to surrender unconditionally in accordance with the terms of the Potsdam Declaration. The Target Committee stated that "It was agreed that psychological factors in the target selection were of great importance. Two aspects of this are (1) obtaining the greatest psychological effect against Japan and (2) making the initial use sufficiently spectacular for the importance of the weapon to be internationally recognized when publicity on it is released. In this respect Kyoto has the advantage of the people being more highly intelligent and hence better able to appreciate the significance of the weapon. Hiroshima has the advantage of being such a size and with possible focussing from nearby mountains that a large fraction of the city may be destroyed. The Emperor's palace in Tokyo has a greater fame than any other target but is of least strategic value." *from:http://www.dannen.com/decision/targets.html

Yes the nuke did happen, twice.

BUT I agree with this and would bet my two balls on it: What this game is missing the most is earlier aircraft, particularly bombers, from countries other than the United States. The prominent armaments from these areas are no where to be found.


Lastly you say I should dogfight more, but I am a hopeless case. I'd rather bomb bases and pork factories as that is my idea of fun for me which thankfully AH2 provides. In the same length, some players like to GV, and that is another preference. We all have our preferences, but omitting a prominent weapon while professing to be "the premier online WWII experience" doesn't seem reconcileable.

Thank you for your response, but I think I've hijacked this thread. So this will be my last reply, regardless.
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