This is not a pick

[mechanic]

I think a good way to define the cherry pick is asking yourself if you could have got that kill on your own. If the answer is "no, i needed the other friendly there to get that kill" then its probably a pick. Classic example are the dweebs who run like mad till you are bored then turn back when you go looking for a real fight.

[Murdr]

From Aces High Radio Terminology
cherry (pick) - Attacking an enemy already engaged with another plane

[lagger86]

just shoot the red guys, de-tune 200, and have fun....pretty effin simple. (I leave 200 on because it's funny to here all the pick and HO whines)....so I guess just shoot the red guys and have fun.

[BnZs]

Steve:

De-tune 200, you are obviously way too concerned with the various remarks griefers make. The anonymity of the internet combined with natural human self-centeredness and frustration over getting shot down is a breeding ground for this sort of unsportsmanlike conduct, so just don't subject yourself to it. Problem solved.

You know, on this subject, you know, I've never seen the following rules for the MA written down in the MOTD or anywhere elsewhere

1. You shall not attack from superior altitude.

2. You shall not attack with superior numbers.

3. You shall not kill by surprise.

4. You shall not shoot from the front-quarter.

5. You shall not bug out.

Etc, and so forth. If we were to all agree to these rules for the MAs, I will dutifully follow them, but of course they are not part of MA play, never will be, and everyone would complain if they were.

MA is not a mano-a-mano "duel". This is a critical point. Only rarely is the MA truly an isolated "you vs. someone else" conflict. Most of the time it is a "you vs. the entire environment" conflict-Every weapon, stratagem, and dirty trick the enemy can use to shoot you down is liable to be used against you. Return the favor. The point is to knock down the enemy a/c by whatever means possible.

With that the whole "pick" term needs to go away. One of three things happened for any kill called a "pick": You cleared a friendlies six or you and a friendly teamed up to down a bandit. This is a good thing. You bounced an unaware bandit and got him, also a good thing.

The third possibility is that you more or less "stole" a kill from a friendly. This is the only one that is not clearly a positively good result. After all, you might need that guy you just pissed off to clear your six at some point. But clearly, there is already a pejorative for this action, "kill stealing", so even here the term "pick" is useless.

[CAP1]

I think a good way to define the cherry pick is asking yourself if you could have got that kill on your own. If the answer is "no, i needed the other friendly there to get that kill" then its probably a pick. Classic example are the dweebs who run like mad till you are bored then turn back when you go looking for a real fight.

HEH......

that sounds like the ponyb that was running from my hellkitty.....he blew all his e, and couldn't climb away from me, at about 1 or 2 k alt. my crapp gunnery let him accelerate out of guns range, so i did a climbing right turn to go back to where i knew there was a fight......a look behind me shows the spit diving from abot 8k to 10k(that he was trying to drag me to) and that same ponyb comming back after me. i returned his favor by dragginf him through ack......twice.  

[Anaxogoras]

Why defend yourself against such ignorance?

[BnZs]

I forgot one..."Thou shalt not drag a foe through ack". Nope, never seen that one written down either.

Hellcat turns better of course, but then again, another rule I've never seen is "Thou shalt not engage the foe in a more maneuverable aircraft.", spitwhining notwithstanding.

So it sounds like another day in the MA. Everyone did their best to survive the sortie and knock the other guy out the sky, and no one has a reason to complain or a leg to stand on when pointing fingers.

HEH......

that sounds like the ponyb that was running from my hellkitty.....he blew all his e, and couldn't climb away from me, at about 1 or 2 k alt. my crapp gunnery let him accelerate out of guns range, so i did a climbing right turn to go back to where i knew there was a fight......a look behind me shows the spit diving from abot 8k to 10k(that he was trying to drag me to) and that same ponyb comming back after me. i returned his favor by dragginf him through ack......twice.  

[CAP1]

I forgot one..."Thou shalt not drag a foe through ack". Nope, never seen that one written down either.

Hellcat turns better of course, but then again, another rule I've never seen is "Thou shalt not engage the foe in a more maneuverable aircraft.", spitwhining notwithstanding.

So it sounds like another day in the MA. Everyone did their best to survive the sortie and knock the other guy out the sky, and no one has a reason to complain or a leg to stand on when pointing fingers.

i don't really like the dragging through ack thing......either doing it or having it done to me......but in this case i felt he deserved it.   
 i was pretty happy tht i managed to dodge his initial attacks, and thought it was someone good enough that i was in for a great fight, till the 1.5 sector extension.
 i used to whine about the spits, till i drove a couple. now i understand more  that it takes skill to fly em....just DIFFERENT skill than the hellcat, and it shines in a lot of the types of fights we have here in the ma's.

 it's not the plane, but rather the pilot.
 i get picked, it's my own dam fault....99% of the time.
 i get ho'd...same, although i used to be able to avoid em better than i can now. it seems as if there;s guys getting better at hitting you in the ho, no matter how you try to avoid. now, i spend a couple minutes trying to set up a merge...if i see the guy continually try to set up for what even remotly looks like a ho(specially if he's in a cannon bird like the hoicane) then i go elsewhere to find a fight as my time ingame is too limited to deal with hotards.
 i don't mind runners, as sometimes they extend, turn, and then the fight is on.
 same with pickers.....quite often, they;l do a couple picks, then come down, and play.....again, a good fight usually ensues.

on the other hand, i have haD my cartoon arse handed to my by ponys in turn fights........the hellcat for me is my step outta the easier planes, and i've been venturing into the p38s lately.....so i'm dieing much more now 

[BnZs]

I think a good way to define the cherry pick is asking yourself if you could have got that kill on your own. If the answer is "no, i needed the other friendly there to get that kill" then its probably a pick. Classic example are the dweebs who run like mad till you are bored then turn back when you go looking for a real fight.

I couldn't even get off the ground by myself. If I was the only Knit player in the game, when I logged on there would be like 200 bish hanging over the last uncaptured knit field, with it de-acked, waiting to vulch me.

[stickpig]

everyone just bail and then slug it out with your .45's

[CAP1]

everyone just bail and then slug it out with your .45's

 

wonder how that would turn out?

would be hillarious to see!!

[Dadsguns]

that might not be a bad idea, everyone up over TT and hide in the city from each other using only your pistols, Count me in.... sounds fun....MISSION UP!!!

[FLOTSOM]

but wouldn't the guys still in the chutes coming down on those on the ground technically be picking them, would it still be a ho if you shot someone in the face, what if you wait until you could sneak up behind them, wouldn't that be a vulch? what would be proper GCM(ground combat maneuvers)? (or would you call it FCM foot combat maneuver)

Damn i have a headache now!

FLOTSOM

[shreck]

HERE HERE!

[Steve]

Steve:

De-tune 200, you are obviously way too concerned with the various remarks griefers make.

You may be right but I didn't mean to imply that Tazz is a griefer. Merely that he appears to have a misconception of what a pick is. I wasn't upset that he called me a picker, either. I do my share of ranting on 200.