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Offline ink

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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2008, 03:15:24 PM »
Well Steve seeing as you brought up this topic maybe you could clear something up for me.

So what is it called when your wingman **cough (jetsom) cough** has painted "SHOOT HERE" and a big "BULLSEYE" on your plane?

Then your wingman **cough (jetsom) cough** insists that you get the glory of being the first to drop down from alt and engage the enemy, not by shooting at them (firing your guns before your wingman is in position is forbidden), but by dropping into the horde, dumping all your E and getting the gaggle (because your wingman only sends you into groups of 3 or more, and not usually less than 5) to slow turn fight with you?

Is it considered to be picking when this aforementioned wingman **cough (jetsom) cough** booms in and repeatedly shoots down the slow tuning planes chasing and attempting to kill you, the slow turning pilot that first dropped into the horde (adoringly nicknamed BAIT by his wingman)?

Would those enemy pilots being shot down be justified in saying they were "picked"? does that scenario constitute a picking party?

Is this a bad wingman tactic?

Jetsom swears by it, is he wrong?

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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2008, 03:16:10 PM »
I wana know how u play aceshigh and freaken poker at the same time..
ur landing 5..6kills in aceshigh and at the SAME time getting a full house in texas holdem.. WTF steve.. cmon now.. one or another.. dont be greedy :)
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2008, 03:16:21 PM »
Picker  :noid
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2008, 03:20:56 PM »
Unfortunately steve, there's always going to be variations of what individuals define as a pick, HO, vulch.  Today i was accused of ho-ing (which in fairness i do), but i was pretty sure it was a clean rope- i checked the film later and sure enough he was hanging on his prop at 40mph.  Sure i shot him in the face, but i wouldn't consider it a HO considering he had no opportunity get a guns solution on me.

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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2008, 03:37:00 PM »
if i were flying in real combat and i had somebody shooting at me,i would certainly want some one to shoot him.no matter 1v1 or 1v100.in game or real life.thats what wingmen r for.and thats what squads r for. :salute
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2008, 06:48:16 PM »
aww... I can't edit my post i was gonna throw this up

« Last Edit: November 03, 2008, 06:50:04 PM by thrila »
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2008, 11:01:33 PM »
STEVE: Pilots that yell 'pick' or 'weak' or 'whatever' (whatever?) are in my mind at least just making excuses for themselves.

For instance: If I am flying loose wingman tactics with my squad and we sandwich one guy between two of us then the guy that shoots the guy in the back 'picks' him when he chooses to HO rather then evade? Hardly.

I am not going to stop doing what we are doing because one guy didnt like the way he died and I dont think you should worry about it either.

I know what you mean though. I zoomed through a party of three yesterday from their low six and they all saw it coming and tried to get evasive it just didnt work and... 'PICKER!' 200 had been pretty clean up until that point... oh well.

Carry on.  :salute
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Re: This is not a pick
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #38 on: November 03, 2008, 11:54:56 PM »
Ok here is my 2 cents :lol STFU you crybaby punks about picks in the MA :rock Learn some SA and if u want a fair 1 on 1 go to the DA and plan it  :O If I get a shot I will take it pick or not in the MA....SO will every one else :aok If you want to fly like a super fair person go to the DA and plan a 1 on 1 at equal alt... Oh no I got picked u pick tard :lol Its ur own fault if U get picked in the MA..There are people that just pick but thats just the way it is so suck it up ,and deal with it u F!!!##! WUSSY'S  :salute
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #39 on: November 04, 2008, 07:31:39 AM »
Ok here is my 2 cents :lol STFU you crybaby punks about picks in the MA :rock Learn some SA and if u want a fair 1 on 1 go to the DA and plan it  :O If I get a shot I will take it pick or not in the MA....SO will every one else :aok If you want to fly like a super fair person go to the DA and plan a 1 on 1 at equal alt... Oh no I got picked u pick tard :lol Its ur own fault if U get picked in the MA..There are people that just pick but thats just the way it is so suck it up ,and deal with it u F!!!##! WUSSY'S  :salute

ya, 'cause when your in a furball, tracking/avoiding 5+ cons, it's sooooo easy to see the guy screaming in at 500+ mph from 10k alt.    :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #40 on: November 04, 2008, 08:52:23 AM »
Yep, I see them every single time errrrrrrrrrrr  ;) - Trig has a point tho, its your own SA that has let ya down, or a decision that you've made thats put you in the position. (Trust me, I should know about this  :D :D :D)


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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #41 on: November 04, 2008, 09:41:29 AM »
Yep, I see them every single time errrrrrrrrrrr  ;) - Trig has a point tho, its your own SA that has let ya down, or a decision that you've made thats put you in the position. (Trust me, I should know about this  :D :D :D)


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OOOO..

i wasn't saying it isn't my own fault when i get picked.........was just being a wise arse on that last statement.  :D
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Re: This is not a pick
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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #43 on: November 04, 2008, 12:18:46 PM »
Steve you obviously do not understand cherry-picking.

There are 2 conditions:

1) Somebody is shot down
2) They whine

In this particular case, obviously both conditions were met.

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Re: This is not a pick
« Reply #44 on: November 04, 2008, 03:28:31 PM »
Steve you obviously do not understand cherry-picking.

There are 2 conditions:

1) Somebody is shot down
2) They whine

In this particular case, obviously both conditions were met.

Hooligan

they weren't engaged with an enemy though, which makes it as steve said, a "bounce" or a bnz   :noid

i admire someone that can hit at 500+ though.

i was looking at a couple of films, where i tried that, and not only did i miss horribly, but i had trouble recovering the dive, and blew most of my e doing so.

 what worked a lil better for me was to dive under them(banking on them not looking..which they weren't), cut the throttle to idle, and come up from their 6 low. not only did i have a slightly larger profile to shoot at, but had they looked straight back, they'd have not seen me. i STILL didn't take him out in that first pass, but i did however hurt him badly enough, that it was only a matter of time.

 i just seem to do best in the furballs when i don't have time to actually aim, but rather just get those quick passing shots.

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