This is not a pick

[lazydog]

See Rules #2. #5

[uberslet]

 i only WISH i could hit something while doing over 500mph. but then, i tend to not fly the planes that go that fast.

its a ball, had a nice snapshot (mostly luck, and i guess good timing and SA) on a spit 16's wing. i couldnt see him (no, i dont ever page up, dont ask why, preference) had no clue he would be there (other than a damn well educated guess, and maybe some expiernece) and i let lose, thought i missed him till i pulled out and saw one part go this way, him the other  i tuned 200 just to see if hed say anything, but nothing 

[CAP1]

its a ball, had a nice snapshot (mostly luck, and i guess good timing and SA) on a spit 16's wing. i couldnt see him (no, i dont ever page up, dont ask why, preference) had no clue he would be there (other than a damn well educated guess, and maybe some expiernece) and i let lose, thought i missed him till i pulled out and saw one part go this way, him the other  i tuned 200 just to see if hed say anything, but nothing 

now THAT'S funny!

maybe i'll learn....if i have the time to climb that high to attain that speed. i can and do sometimes, but not often enough, as my time is somewhat limited....at least till i can afford to hire someone....then i'll d/l the game onto m shop computer too.   

[SD67]

I have better luck with the BnZ thing if I time my dive so I come down below and behind them and shoot on the way up. I'm not sure why but it works better for me that way.

[uberslet]

when your coming up to them, they cant see you, your in their blind spot SD

[SD67]

Yeah that's kind of what I thought too, but you'd think they would have seen me screaming down from 15k behind them too.

[CAP1]

I have better luck with the BnZ thing if I time my dive so I come down below and behind them and shoot on the way up. I'm not sure why but it works better for me that way.

that was what i mentioned that i tried once or twice. had my gunnery been better, it would have worked excellently.

[uberslet]

ive never tried it, only because if im gonna kill em, i want em ded, im not toying with my food with others around, how i always lose kills, or die.

[CAP1]

Yeah that's kind of what I thought too, but you'd think they would have seen me screaming down from 15k behind them too.

some guys(myself included sometimes) get so focused on one thing(most recently for me was finding a safe landing zone with 1 minute of fuel left), that they don't notice ANYTHING that's not in front of their 6-9 line. i picked my place, slowed her down, gear and flaps down, then one final glance 'round, just in time to see the hurri, that i SHOULD have seen long before he got that close. he was so close that had i let loose a cartoon fart, he'd have smelt it.  

[Steve]

Nothing wrong with coming up from below but for me personally I find up from below to cause more collisions, is a harder shot, and it takes longer to set up which gives comrades more time to warn the victim. Also, I'm usually bouncing more than one so I have an alternate target or two in mind if my first choice starts agressive evasives. Even then, if the guy hasn't started a dodge by 2.0, it's probably too late. Against numbers, getting below a guy and voluntarily surrendering E by chopping the throttle seems unwise.  YMMV

[CAP1]

Nothing wrong with coming up from below but for me personally I find up from below to cause more collisions, is a harder shot, and it takes longer to set up which gives comrades more time to warn the victim. Also, I'm usually bouncing more than one so I have an alternate target or two in mind if my first choice starts agressive evasives. Even then, if the guy hasn't started a dodge by 2.0, it's probably too late. Against numbers, getting below a guy and voluntarily surrendering E by chopping the throttle seems unwise.  YMMV

i should have clarified....i did that against a single con. had it been multiple cons, i'd have not gond below them till after i took my shot.

 but now i have a question, i hope you don;t mind answering?

you said that if they've not started evasives by the time you're within D2.0, then it's too late? i had almost always waited till about 1.5 or so, as it seemed that if i started evasives sooner, then the bouncer was able to correct for my evasives? or maybe a better way to phrase........how would YOU avoid you?

 not trying to be a wise arse......simply trying to learn........

<<S>>

[Ack-Ack]

Seems like some old definitions are getting skewed a bit. The traditional, generally accepted definition of a pick is when you kill someone who is already engaged in a 1v1 or even fight.

That's not a pick, this is a pick.




ack-ack

[Murdr]

Seems like some old definitions are getting skewed a bit. The traditional, generally accepted definition of a pick is when you kill someone who is already engaged in a 1v1 or even fight.

Steve, send them to this page, or this page, or this page 

[Steve]

i should have clarified....i did that against a single con. had it been multiple cons, i'd have not gond below them till after i took my shot.

 but now i have a question, i hope you don;t mind answering?

you said that if they've not started evasives by the time you're within D2.0, then it's too late? i had almost always waited till about 1.5 or so, as it seemed that if i started evasives sooner, then the bouncer was able to correct for my evasives? or maybe a better way to phrase........how would YOU avoid you?

 not trying to be a wise arse......simply trying to learn........

<<S>>

Ya, if I'm coming down on you  and you wait til 1.5, chances are you are going to end up in the tower. I'll take what shot I have at 400- and let my convergent snapshot chew you up. I won't bother with a long tracking shot(saps E) if there are multiple bandits in the area. It doesn't always work, but more often than not. Sometimes I simply get outflown.
If there are multiple cons in the area, a simple break or split-S early will cause me to choose another target. Remember, I won't be pulling hard enough, beyond a snap shot,   to burn E in the horde.

[CAP1]

Ya, if I'm coming down on you  and you wait til 1.5, chances are you are going to end up in the tower. I'll take what shot I have at 400- and let my convergent snapshot chew you up. I won't bother with a long tracking shot(saps E) if there are multiple bandits in the area. It doesn't always work, but more often than not. Sometimes I simply get outflown.
If there are multiple cons in the area, a simple break or split-S early will cause me to choose another target. Remember, I won't be pulling hard enough, beyond a snap shot,   to burn E in the horde.

so basically, make myself look like the smallest fish in the pond then.............?