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Offline BigPlay

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Re: new wish list
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2008, 03:21:19 PM »
See Rule #4
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2008, 03:24:28 PM »
The Heinkel He 100 never saw any action do better research next time same with the Heinkel He 111Z only use for towing the giant Me-232 for take off.
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2008, 06:19:21 PM »
Ack ack, I think you need to look at the "spirit of the criteria" and less at following it word for word down to a 'T'.  The spirit of this criteria/rule/law is that HTC doesn't want any planes in their sky that the oposing side (axis/allied) never actualy engaged in combat with, and there are plenty of examples of aircraft that fit this description and will never be added.  However, in the case of the FW187, it was suposedly encountered by the enemy, I think this is one of those situations where it could actualy qualify.  Yes, it never was officialy adopted or put to work in the name of the Luftwaffe, but it did encounter allied aircraft over Germany.

There are clear and established guidelines for which planes are added and not added to the game.  The FW 187 does not meet any of these guidelines.  It never saw any operational service with any Luftwaffe unit.  It was never a plane in the Luftwaffe inventory.  There is absolutely no evidence or documentation that says the 3 FW 187s that were flown by FW test pilots ever engaged in combat with any Allied plane, let alone shoot one down.  There is only anecdotal evidence that says some FW test pilots took off in 3 FW 187s to defend the FW factory from an Allied air attack, that's it, no other evidence.  On top of that, only 9 were made.  No matter how you try to spin it, the FW 187 does not qualify.

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It's so on the border, word for word it shouldn't be allowed by HTC's criteria (I agree it doesn't have to be, it was in the sky but no proof of casualties/damage inflicted/taken, but if there is then that's another thing), but due to actual events that took place during WWII and interpreting that in the spirit of HTC's criteria... well I think unless you are HTC yourself you really don't know and are just slaping down a fellow player's idea while talking out your ass.

It's not "so on the border", it's clearly on the side that disqualifies it to be added to the game.  What actual events took place other than it never served in any capacity with the Luftwaffe?  If you have any questions what the criteria is for planes to be added to the game, email HTC.  I did a few years ago and got a nice reply from HiTech explaining it to me.


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Re: new wish list
« Reply #48 on: November 07, 2008, 12:05:09 PM »
thx for supporting me with the FW 187 ..... anyway any other f**kin smart bellybutton comments and ill report u for a second time cause i think thats a bunch of bulls**t that u find the balls to say some gay s**t like that. :rock :mad:
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #49 on: November 07, 2008, 12:10:56 PM »
As u all know we always want new planes and ive come up with my extremly long list of planes id like to have in the game:

RECON PLANES/FLOAT PALNES: These could act as advanced radars if u fail to own one at ur base/launch float planes from carriers or ports:
Aeronca L-3 Grasshopper
Aichi E13A
Arado Ar 196
Avro Anson Mk I
Blackburn Botha
Beriev KOR=2 (Be-4)
Beriev MBR-2
Blohm und Voss Bv-138
Blohm und Voss Bv-141
Blohm und Voss Bv 222 Wiking
CANT Z.501 Gabbiano
CANT Z.506 Airone
Caproni Ca 101
Consolidated PBY Catalina
Dornier Do 18
Fieseler Fi 156 Storch
Focke-Wulf Fw 189 Eule
Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor
Fokker C.V
Fokker C.X
Fokker T.VIII-W
Heinkel He 59
Heinkel He 70 Blitz
Heinkel He 115
Henschel Hs 126
Kawanishi H6K
Letov S 328
Lockheed Hudson
Lockheed A-28 and A-29
Lockheed F-4 and F-5
Lockheed Ventura
Mitsubishi Ki-15 and C5M
Mitsubishi Ki-46
Naval Aircraft Factory N3N
Northrop N-3PB
PZL P.23 Karas
PZL P.24
PZL P.37 Los
Plage & Laskiewicz (Lublin) R-XIII
Plage & LasKiewicz (Lublin) R-XVI
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
Savoia-Marchetti Sm.79B, JR and K Sparviero
Short Singapore
Short Sunderland Sukhoi Su-2
Supermarine Walrus
Vickers Vincent
Vickers Wellington
Westland Lysander
Westland Wapiti
TORPEDO BOMBERS:
Aichi b7a Ryusei
Blackburn Baffin
Blackburn Firebrand
Consolidated TBY Sea Wolf
Fariey Albacore
Fairey Swordfish
Fieseler Fi 167
Nakajima B6N Tenzan
BOMBER/DVIE-BOMBER
Aichi D1A
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley
Avro Manchester
Boeing B-17C and B-17F
Boeing B-29 superfortress
Breda Ba 88 Lince
Bristol Beaufighter
Bristol Bombay
Bristol Blenheim
CANT Z.1007 Alcione
Caproni Beramasca Ca 310 Libeccio
Caproni Bergamaschi Ca 135
Caproni Ca 133
Commonwealth Wirraway
Consolidated B-24D Liberator
Curtiss Model 77 (SBC Helldiver)
Curtiss SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17
Dornier Do 217
Dornier Do 215
Douglas DB-7
Douglas A-26 Invader
Douglas A-24
Fairey Battle
Fairey Fox
Fiat BR.20 Cicogna
Focke-Wulf Fw 189 Uhu
Handley Page Hampden
Handley page Halifax
Hawker Hart
Heinkel He 111
Heinkel He 111Z
Heinkel He 177 Greif
Heinkel He-219 Uhu
Henshel Hs 129
Henshel Hs 123
Ilyushin Il-4
Ilyushin Il-10
Junkers Ju 86
Junkers Ju 188
Lockheed B-34 Lexington, B-37 and PV Ventura
Martin B-10 and B-12
Messerschmitt Me 410 Hornisse
Mitsubishi G3M
Mitsubishi G4M
Mitsubishi Ki-21
Mitsubishi Ki-30
Nakajima Ki-49 Donryu
Northrop A-17
Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Petlyakov Pe-2
Short Stirling Mks I to V
Tupolev SB-2
Tupolev Tu-2
Vickers Wellesley
Vickers Wellington B.Mks I to X
Vought SB2U Vindicator
Vultee A-35 Vengence
TRANSPORTS:
Arado Ar 232
Armstrong Whilworth Albemarle
Avro Anson Mk II to C.Mk 19
Caproni Ca 148
Consolidated Liberator Mk II
Douglas DC-2
Gotha Go 244
Junkers Ju 52
Plage & Laskiewicz (Lublin) R-XVI
Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 Pipistrello
JETS/ROCKETS:
Bell P-59 Airacomet
Heinkel He 162 Salamander
FIGHTERS:
Arado Ar 68Avia B-534
Boulton Paul Defiant
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Commonwealth Boomerang
Curtiss P-36 Mohawk
Focke-Wulf Fw 187 Falke
Fokker D.XXI
Fokker G.I
Gloster Gladiator
Grumman F3F
Hawker Fury Mk I/II
Heinkel He 100
Heinkel He 112
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu
Kawasaki Ki-100
Lavochkin LaGG-1 and LaGG-3
Macchi MC.200 Saetta
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-1 and MiG-3
Mitsubishi A5M
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden
Mitsubishi Ki-46-III
Nakajima Ki-27
PZL P.24
Polikarpov I-15
Polikarpov I-16
Polikarpov I-153
Reggiana Re.2000 Falco I
Reggiane Re.2001 Falco II, Re.2002 Ariete and Re.2005 Sagittario
Rogozarski Ik-3
Saab J21
Seversky P-35
Westland Whirlwind



.....Yah, so that was my really long list how to here from u (in a positive way)  :rock  :aok


This list is bunk because I don't see the 109E-7, F2, G6/AS or G-10. :furious
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2008, 12:14:55 PM »
hmm the F2 as in the FM2 if so thats in the game and other wise i have never heard of it. nd thats my bad i didnt put the g-10 in... i actually like that plane..................... :rock
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #51 on: November 07, 2008, 12:27:36 PM »
Thank u for noticing the He100. i totally forgot about that. I do know that 6 prototypes were made and sold to Japan in 1939 and 3 pre production aircraft were sold to the USSR in 1939.  And i cant forget the 12 aircraft that were produced to protect the Heinkel( not the beer factory  :lol) factory. production ceased after the company ran out of DB 601 engines and soon after the purpose of making more was out of the question
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #52 on: November 07, 2008, 12:30:35 PM »
I dont think FW187 qualifies, it saw no fielded, squad, operational service and only 9 were built and only 3 of those 9 were production models. cool aircraft though.




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Re: new wish list
« Reply #53 on: November 07, 2008, 12:32:36 PM »
thx for supporting me with the FW 187 ..... anyway any other f**kin smart bellybutton comments and ill report u for a second time cause i think thats a bunch of bulls**t that u find the balls to say some gay s**t like that. :rock :mad:


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Re: new wish list
« Reply #54 on: November 07, 2008, 01:03:12 PM »
As u all know we always want new planes and ive come up with my extremly long list of planes id like to have in the game:

RECON PLANES/FLOAT PALNES: These could act as advanced radars if u fail to own one at ur base/launch float planes from carriers or ports:
Aeronca L-3 Grasshopper
Aichi E13A
Arado Ar 196
Avro Anson Mk I
Blackburn Botha
Beriev KOR=2 (Be-4)
Beriev MBR-2
Blohm und Voss Bv-138
Blohm und Voss Bv-141
Blohm und Voss Bv 222 Wiking
CANT Z.501 Gabbiano
CANT Z.506 Airone
Caproni Ca 101
Consolidated PBY Catalina
Dornier Do 18
Fieseler Fi 156 Storch
Focke-Wulf Fw 189 Eule
Focke-Wulf Fw 200 Condor
Fokker C.V
Fokker C.X
Fokker T.VIII-W
Heinkel He 59
Heinkel He 70 Blitz
Heinkel He 115
Henschel Hs 126
Kawanishi H6K
Letov S 328
Lockheed Hudson
Lockheed A-28 and A-29
Lockheed F-4 and F-5
Lockheed Ventura
Mitsubishi Ki-15 and C5M
Mitsubishi Ki-46
Naval Aircraft Factory N3N
Northrop N-3PB
PZL P.23 Karas
PZL P.24
PZL P.37 Los
Plage & Laskiewicz (Lublin) R-XIII
Plage & LasKiewicz (Lublin) R-XVI
Savoia-Marchetti SM.79 Sparviero
Savoia-Marchetti Sm.79B, JR and K Sparviero
Short Singapore
Short Sunderland Sukhoi Su-2
Supermarine Walrus
Vickers Vincent
Vickers Wellington
Westland Lysander
Westland Wapiti
TORPEDO BOMBERS:
Aichi b7a Ryusei
Blackburn Baffin
Blackburn Firebrand
Consolidated TBY Sea Wolf
Fariey Albacore
Fairey Swordfish
Fieseler Fi 167
Nakajima B6N Tenzan
BOMBER/DVIE-BOMBER
Aichi D1A
Armstrong Whitworth Whitley
Avro Manchester
Boeing B-17C and B-17F
Boeing B-29 superfortress
Breda Ba 88 Lince
Bristol Beaufighter
Bristol Bombay
Bristol Blenheim
CANT Z.1007 Alcione
Caproni Beramasca Ca 310 Libeccio
Caproni Bergamaschi Ca 135
Caproni Ca 133
Commonwealth Wirraway
Consolidated B-24D Liberator
Curtiss Model 77 (SBC Helldiver)
Curtiss SB2C Helldiver
Dornier Do 17
Dornier Do 217
Dornier Do 215
Douglas DB-7
Douglas A-26 Invader
Douglas A-24
Fairey Battle
Fairey Fox
Fiat BR.20 Cicogna
Focke-Wulf Fw 189 Uhu
Handley Page Hampden
Handley page Halifax
Hawker Hart
Heinkel He 111
Heinkel He 111Z
Heinkel He 177 Greif
Heinkel He-219 Uhu
Henshel Hs 129
Henshel Hs 123
Ilyushin Il-4
Ilyushin Il-10
Junkers Ju 86
Junkers Ju 188
Lockheed B-34 Lexington, B-37 and PV Ventura
Martin B-10 and B-12
Messerschmitt Me 410 Hornisse
Mitsubishi G3M
Mitsubishi G4M
Mitsubishi Ki-21
Mitsubishi Ki-30
Nakajima Ki-49 Donryu
Northrop A-17
Northrop P-61 Black Widow
Petlyakov Pe-2
Short Stirling Mks I to V
Tupolev SB-2
Tupolev Tu-2
Vickers Wellesley
Vickers Wellington B.Mks I to X
Vought SB2U Vindicator
Vultee A-35 Vengence
TRANSPORTS:
Arado Ar 232
Armstrong Whilworth Albemarle
Avro Anson Mk II to C.Mk 19
Caproni Ca 148
Consolidated Liberator Mk II
Douglas DC-2
Gotha Go 244
Junkers Ju 52
Plage & Laskiewicz (Lublin) R-XVI
Savoia-Marchetti SM.81 Pipistrello
JETS/ROCKETS:
Bell P-59 Airacomet
Heinkel He 162 Salamander
FIGHTERS:
Arado Ar 68Avia B-534
Boulton Paul Defiant
Brewster F2A Buffalo
Commonwealth Boomerang
Curtiss P-36 Mohawk
Focke-Wulf Fw 187 Falke
Fokker D.XXI
Fokker G.I
Gloster Gladiator
Grumman F3F
Hawker Fury Mk I/II
Heinkel He 100
Heinkel He 112
Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu
Kawasaki Ki-100
Lavochkin LaGG-1 and LaGG-3
Macchi MC.200 Saetta
Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-1 and MiG-3
Mitsubishi A5M
Mitsubishi J2M Raiden
Mitsubishi Ki-46-III
Nakajima Ki-27
PZL P.24
Polikarpov I-15
Polikarpov I-16
Polikarpov I-153
Reggiana Re.2000 Falco I
Reggiane Re.2001 Falco II, Re.2002 Ariete and Re.2005 Sagittario
Rogozarski Ik-3
Saab J21
Seversky P-35
Westland Whirlwind



.....Yah, so that was my really long list how to here from u (in a positive way)  :rock  :aok



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Re: new wish list
« Reply #55 on: November 07, 2008, 01:15:49 PM »
We're gonna have to invent negative perk points if you want to include the Fairey Battle!  :lol
Here we are, living on top of a molten ball of rock, spinning around at a 1,000mph, orbiting a nuclear fireball and whizzing through space at half-a-million miles per hour. Most of us believe in super-beings which for some reason need to be praised for setting this up. This, apparently, is normal.

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Re: new wish list
« Reply #56 on: November 07, 2008, 01:44:10 PM »
well done for quoting his list 10 times geez.

On second thoughts that should keep HtC working til 2020     :lol

Get on it!!

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Re: new wish list
« Reply #57 on: November 07, 2008, 01:53:20 PM »
Blohm und Voss Bv 222 Wiking didn't this seaplane get kill by a P-51 and never saw any action? Bell P-59 Airacomet Heinkel He 162 Salamander never saw any action during WW2 the 162 was only use during the last week of the war. Really if your going to make a new wishlist do some background checking on the planes.
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Re: new wish list
« Reply #58 on: November 07, 2008, 08:00:43 PM »
THC for supporting me with the FW 187 ..... anyway any other f**kin smart bellybutton comments and ill report u for a second time cause i think that's a bunch of bulls**t that u find the balls to say some gay s**t like that. :rock :mad:


Kinda ironic you threaten to report people while breaking a few rules yourself. I'm with those people that think you just found that list somewhere and just cut-paste. From the way you post I'm putting my money at around 14.

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Re: new wish list
« Reply #59 on: November 07, 2008, 08:11:53 PM »
ERyan=Valdals?