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Offline Naudet

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« on: March 03, 2001, 01:29:00 PM »
Ok can someone tell me why planes hit me when there deflection is so great that i must be behind their cockpit horizon??

I am not able to aim at a plane that is in the middle of a break turn, cause it disappears below the cockpit horizon and so i cant follow its flight path.

But i am so often hit by players that seem to have full screen view!!
I pull a hard break turn and the guy closes and i am going so fast that i must disappear under his cockpit horizon but he hits me what a BS, if this game should be realistic, give the smae rules to everyone, not a magic full view to some and a restrictive cockpit view to others.

Offline Tac

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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2001, 01:44:00 PM »
Everyone has the same view limitations as you naudet. Most people here have been flying their planes long enough that they know the ballistics of their guns.

Rudder is also used a lot to shoot, you may bank the plane and turn tight, the other guy rolls his plane a bit, rudders so your plane is visible left or right of the gunsight and spray a bit in front of your plane.

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« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2001, 01:49:00 PM »
Lead shot..

About 70% of the time a plane in front of me will break turn and i can hit it while its under my nose. I cant see it, but i judge where he should be and let a few rounds of to check if he took the path i think he took.

This works best against the larger fighters that dont have a fast roll rate. For me the 109 is hard to hit because it a small plane.

Also the 190 is hard to guess,with its fast roll rate it may look like a break turn at 1st,then he will roll out the opposite direction. This is not allways the case though. The good thing about the 190 when flying it is using its roll rate to your advantage. When a plane starts the break turn 190 can roll into a lead shot right away.

Ill dig out a film i have with a lead shot while i was just rolling it out.

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Offline ra

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« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2001, 03:17:00 PM »
Netlag could also account for this.  If he fires directly from your 6 just before you make your break turn, the pings may not register on your end until your are well into your turn.

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« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2001, 07:06:00 PM »
It's netlag.  You see his plane where it used to be.  The lag can approach 1 second in some cases.

If that doesn't make sense, read this:  http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/netlag.htm

It was written for WarBirds but it applies 100% to Aces High.

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« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2001, 09:29:00 PM »
man im glad im close to the server, 1 second of lag would make me crazy.

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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2001, 07:36:00 AM »
How close you are is only 1/2 of the lag equasion wobble.  You could get 1 second of lag if the other guy has a slow connection.  However, a low latency connect does help.

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Offline Pepe

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« Reply #7 on: March 05, 2001, 03:18:00 AM »
I never flat break turn. I usually add a little vertical (up or down) separation. That would ruin most lead shots.

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« Reply #8 on: March 05, 2001, 05:45:00 AM »
Aw well, I manage to make em miss those shot by being the most "unpredictable" I can when I flip (on Defensive), however, I have big problems trying to land shots like that too... when I hit, it's usualy more "luck" than a "good guess"  

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Offline StSanta

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« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2001, 12:11:00 AM »
Before the disappearing icons under the nose, I got 90% of my kills from "under the nose shots".

Same now, except I miss a lot more  .

But it is SOOO rewarding to pull nose up making the enemy disappear, stopping the pull and releasing some rounds, see hit flashes and a burning allied fighter on the way to meet the ground  .

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Offline Spatula

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« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2001, 01:08:00 AM »
Use the force.

instead of taking a under-the-nose shot, you can roll you plane out of plane and put the piper on where he looks like he will be going and fire there and use the rudder to track him.
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« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2001, 04:10:00 AM »
 
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Originally posted by Spatula:
Use the force.


yeah  its that....
bish is the light side other the dark side  

Offline Pepe

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« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2001, 08:55:00 AM »
nono, stop telling we rooks are without radar 24/7!!

It is just as bad as it is.  

Cheers,

Pepe.