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Offline hubsonfire

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Connectivity issues and nframe
« on: November 11, 2008, 06:40:22 PM »
Skuzzy, have you heard anything (negative) about these guys?

http://www.nframe.com/

The local electric utility has an offshoot now that offers fiber internet and cable to their customers. After a months long wait, we got connected last fall, and all was good. 3M/256K, cheaper than DSL, worked fine. The last few weeks, it's been poop. Pingplotter shows something like this-

Target Name: N/A
         IP: 206.16.60.39
  Date/Time: 11/11/2008 7:44:13 PM

 1    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms    0 ms  [192.168.1.1]
 2   11 ms   11 ms   11 ms    2 ms   11 ms   11 ms   12 ms   11 ms   11 ms   12 ms  [10.6.5.65]
 3    2 ms    2 ms    3 ms    2 ms    1 ms    1 ms    1 ms    2 ms    3 ms    3 ms  IP-64-72-134-177.nframe.net [64.72.134.177]
 4  101 ms  144 ms  139 ms  145 ms   85 ms   81 ms  119 ms  115 ms  154 ms  139 ms  IP-64-72-134-225.nframe.net [64.72.134.225]
 5  122 ms  138 ms  136 ms  129 ms   74 ms   80 ms  125 ms  129 ms  157 ms  157 ms  Cedar-2-SpruceA.nframe.com [216.37.0.125]
 6  125 ms  137 ms  138 ms  124 ms   78 ms   80 ms  122 ms  116 ms  164 ms  164 ms  POS0-0-1.GW4.IND6.ALTER.NET [157.130.103.245]
 7  131 ms  149 ms  128 ms  124 ms   74 ms   81 ms  118 ms  106 ms  163 ms  193 ms  0.so-0-0-2.XL1.IND6.ALTER.NET [152.63.67.250]
 8  144 ms  158 ms  141 ms  109 ms   79 ms   94 ms  126 ms  104 ms  163 ms  163 ms  0.so-5-0-0.XL1.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.64.18]
 9  126 ms  160 ms  132 ms  117 ms   87 ms   95 ms  120 ms  120 ms  170 ms  156 ms  0.so-6-0-0.BR2.CHI13.ALTER.NET [152.63.73.25]
10  120 ms  171 ms  163 ms  104 ms  102 ms   87 ms  142 ms  124 ms  161 ms  151 ms  uu-gw.cgcil.ip.att.net [192.205.35.181]
11  154 ms  187 ms  185 ms  112 ms  142 ms  130 ms  188 ms  160 ms  183 ms  188 ms  tbr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.87.254]
12  156 ms  170 ms  185 ms  114 ms  142 ms  131 ms  183 ms  155 ms  175 ms  186 ms  cr2.cgcil.ip.att.net [12.122.17.237]
13  156 ms  175 ms  184 ms  118 ms  134 ms  132 ms  189 ms  146 ms  196 ms  194 ms  cr2.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.2.22]
14  157 ms  175 ms  186 ms  128 ms  138 ms  125 ms  182 ms  146 ms  192 ms  198 ms  cr1.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.2.217]
15  157 ms  180 ms  184 ms  122 ms  125 ms  132 ms  188 ms  148 ms  197 ms  196 ms  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.3.221]
16  166 ms  176 ms  178 ms  114 ms  121 ms  135 ms  185 ms  167 ms  204 ms  191 ms  gar5.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.138.5]
17  171 ms  176 ms  170 ms  137 ms  138 ms  143 ms  180 ms  180 ms  193 ms  190 ms  mdf1-gsr12-1-pos-7-0.dal1.attens.net [12.122.255.82]
18  167 ms  171 ms  187 ms  137 ms  132 ms  147 ms  183 ms  261 ms  203 ms  187 ms  mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-1-1.dal1.attens.net [63.241.192.250]
19  163 ms  164 ms  182 ms  138 ms  124 ms  142 ms  177 ms  175 ms  199 ms  204 ms  [206.16.60.39]



Now, it wasn't always like this, but it has been consistently poop in the evenings (when I can play) for a few weeks now. I'd read all the election crap was going to create major traffic issues, but I would have thought it would have dwindled some afterwards. It hasn't- if anything, it's worse now, due to increased packet loss. Is this just traffic choking them out, or are there other factors at work?

I'd never heard of them until I ran pingplotter, and the local provider is upgrading our connection come January (doing away with their 3M/256K offering, making 10/1 the basic fios service.) I would have been thrilled, but I'm not thinking a crappy 10M connection is any better than a crappy 3M connection. Right now, I'm lucky to get a good connection to HTC at all. Last night it was dropping packets everywhere between Chicago and Dallas according to Pingplotter; this afternoon my ping to the MAs was 850, and to the forum it was over a full second, and now my ping is ranging from 60 to 200+, with random packet loss.

My dialup connection had very nearly the same latency, and packet loss. I had hoped fiber would be an upgrade, but it looks like I got screwed. Is there any word on these guys? Are they trying to become another Savvis or Level3?


« Last Edit: November 11, 2008, 06:42:41 PM by hubsonfire »
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Re: Connectivity issues and nframe
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2008, 05:58:12 AM »
I have never heard of them, but that is a pretty high number of hops.  Unusually high coming from Indiana.  5 hops just in Chicago.

Seeing a lot of that lately though.  The more hops you have to go through the more likelihood of something going wrong.

Other than the hop count, the trace does not look too bad.  An 80ms variance is tolerable.  There is no packet loss in that trace either.
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Re: Connectivity issues and nframe
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2008, 09:10:31 AM »
Yeah, I pasted the wrong trace in initially. The PL faded out, but the ping increased from 140- ~200ms. I know that's within the scope of the game, but it still sucks compared to ~40-60. I had hoped for something better than this. Some evenings, and some times, I can't even play. Yesterday when it was at it's worst, I couldn't even access the forums to ask about it.

Well, I'll keep my fingers crossed I guess.
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Re: Connectivity issues and nframe
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2008, 02:02:02 AM »
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Re: Connectivity issues and nframe
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2008, 07:54:14 AM »
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