P-51B and D models

[Bronk]

The dark side is pulling at me.... .. must   resist.......     the dark side   *gurgle*... *ack*   arrrrrrghghhhyeaahhh.

*pushes steve aside

Like this!!

[Steve]

Blahahahahahahaha!  Feel the ecstacy of the dark side course thru your veins... muhahahahahaha!

[Lusche]

 

[Widewing]

Medium altitude is where the Ki-84 really performs well. By medium alt, I mean between 10k and 15k. Up there, you are not dealing with control stiffening and aero loading as this is a function of IAS (indicated air speed), not TAS (true airspeed). The lower it gets, the more control stiffening and aero loading becomes an issue. Control stiffening can be overcome by trim. Aero loading cannot be overcome, except by paying close attention to your speed.

Where the Ki-84 is at greatest risk is when speeds are just below corner velocity. At a speed near that, most American fighters can get one or more notches (for lack of a better term) of flaps out. This enables them to cut the corner and pull lead. Inasmuch as the Ki-84 can't begin deploying flaps until dangerously slow (danger in that it is a sitting duck for the third man in), its pilot must get the fight into the vertical and use the Ki-84's strengths to break down the opposition's E, where it can dominate the fight by forcing the fight up hill.


My regards,

Widewing

[Ack-Ack]

welllllllll... it is possible if he took out the lead bomber and the drone(s) went in as freebies...

maybe it was in offline mode?   or an old H2H room 

Or the bomber bug that pops up now and then.


ack-ack

[Ack-Ack]

I'd like to see how someone fires just 2 rounds.

It's easy to fire off single rounds, just do what moot suggested, tap the trigger really fast and you'll fire off an individual round. 

As for taking out a buff with 2 rounds, I have to call BS unless it was a Golden BB shot to the cockpit for a pilot kill.


ack-ack

[Race]

   I dont understand how people use trim for anything other than maintaining neutral balance on the plane. The only time I ever touch the trim is if I start to compress. If a surface has 30 degress of movement it seems like 5 degrees of trim and 25 of stick movement is the same. Personally I laugh at the thought of playing with trim while hovering 2 mph above stall speed in a luftberry or some other manuever. A well calibrated/scaled stick should beat any of that mess. KISS should apply here for most but thats just me.

I got a question for people...say your in a 30 degree per second turn maintaining a set altitude in a 51 Bravo

Whats better...

A. 4 notches of flaps with little to no stick input.
or
B. 1 notches of flap with 2/3rds evelator input.

Which has more drag vs lift?

Edit: Just to be clear the trim isnt involved.

Race

[moot]

Yep.

[Ack-Ack]

   I dont understand how people use trim for anything other than maintaining neutral balance on the plane.

Most players from some reason believe the urban myth that adjusting trim like elevator trim will make you turn tighter than just by pulling back on the stick.


ack-ack

[moot]

It does increase turn rate when combat trim is actualy limiting full authority potential.  E.g. in the mossie at some speeds (around 350 IIRC).

[Steve]

It does increase turn rate when combat trim is actualy limiting full authority potential.  E.g. in the mossie at some speeds (around 350 IIRC).

Hmmm I turn combat trim off when I start to get slow.

[Race]

     I would seriously like to see some hard data on that. The only time I can see it helping is near compression speeds. It really depends on how the trim tabs are modeled I think. If they move the whole surface the limit should be set to a certain number regardless of trim. However if they actually modeled trim tabs then I could see max input plus trim actually helping. In a poni I never really have a problem with elevator authority. Combined with flaps and speed there isnt a spot in the profile that I cant stall or black out in.

Race

[Ack-Ack]

It does increase turn rate when combat trim is actualy limiting full authority potential.  E.g. in the mossie at some speeds (around 350 IIRC).

Adjusting elevator trim will not make you turn tighter, it's already been proven countless of times and even HiTech has posted explaining why it doesn't work.  It's all in the mind of the player, think of it as a placebo for the virtual flyer.


ack-ack

[Race]

Its not "hard data" but thats close enough.

 

Any comments on my question?

Race

[moot]

AKAK I am talking about a specific problem with the mossie combat trim, the same as the Ki84.  It won't allow you to pull as hard as it could.  It's trimmed for neutral flight.  As soon as I've got my CH gear sorted out I'll post a film of it.  You litteraly can't stall the mossie without trimming the elevator around 340mph ias or so. Trim it, and you can.