You don't NEED a gun simplified.

[DmonSlyr]

i know vulcan but giving away your guns is giving away your freedom. Why do you think the right to bear arms is the second amendment. Its more important then just owning a gun. The fathers did it for a reason

[mtnman]

You will find a lot of black powder guys around here as well.  Black powder deer season is VERY popular.

ROX

I'm a black powder shooter, more-so than a "modern" shooter.  I hunt with my flintlock rifle- I grocery shop with the .270.



Arguments against gun ownership that have bothered me in the past were arguments against owning anything larger than a .50 (my rifle is a .54, my Brown Bess (musket) is a .75...), and depending on the wording, my muzzle-loaders are historical "assault weapons" or "military" weapons.  The flintlock was used by the worlds military's (sp?) for over 260 years, no other firearm even comes close... 

Heck, my shotgun shoots a projectile larger than .50 cal.  Also, arguments against owning weapons that can shoot through a BP vest are troublesome.  My .270 and 22-250 will go through more than 1/4" of steel at 200+ yards.

In addition, the powder I need to keep them functioning correctly is an "explosive", compared to modern powders which are "propellants".  Flintlocks don't perform well with any of the modern "synthetics" I've tried.

Ink-  Nice blade!  I've got a beauty of a Bowie style knife (hand forged Damascus) that a friend made...  Too big to lug around, but a work of art!

[DMBEAR]

my home defence


obviously i took these pics offline, but its the exact sword i own!


folded 8-10 times, clay used in heat tempering to give a hard edge and soft spine,so the Hamon line is real.

insanly sharp,scary sharp!!!

Nice sword, but what would Indy do?   

[ink]

Mtnman, ya damascus is very nice, its a little differant then my blade although they look very similure, with damascus they start out with around 512 layers of alternating hard and soft steels, and then forge that into the blade, i bought a $60 blade kit from Atlanta cutlery a dagger in damacus, i traded it to a sword shop for 3 high carbon steel swords, then he sold it for $300.

 lol those who showed Indy... lol real life, if someone broke into my house i probably would not go for my sword,  of course if the situation allowed it, it would be in my hands, but i would be more inclinded to confront them with my hands, or feet or elbows or knees heck my forhead  or teeth, point is - my house not a smart one to try to rob.

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[FLOTSOM]

my house not a smart one to try to rob.

well thats just because our lovely and brave Stacy would beat the intruder about the head and neck region with your recently, commencing at the sound of the breaking glass, poop filled diaper!

YOU WUSSY!!!!!!

loves to the FAMILY Brother

FLOTSOM

P.S. Our Knives are sharp!         

[mbailey]

Yea, just all in good fun with the Indy vid.  

I must agree, with that sword, you could make "bad guy" Shish Kabobs.

Could you see the look on the police officers face when they came to the house  

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[Shuffler]

Last I read crime was much higher in England than in the US per capita. Gun and non gun. If you dig enough I think you'll find that most crimes involving a gun in the US... the gun is not registered or legal.

[Rich46yo]

Ahhh the sweet pinnacle of ignorance

May I suggest picking up a history book in the not so distant future. Right now your contending with Miss Teen South Carolina's speech.

Due clue us all in oh master of history. And whats Miss Teen South Carolina got to do with it?

You must like to tickle us with the potential of your vast intellect when you post your one liners Vulcan. One day just spread your wings, write a whole paragraph, and try and make a point.

[Curval]

Last I read crime was much higher in England than in the US per capita. Gun and non gun.

Incorrect. 

(I'm only posting and pointing it out because the comment was made about England and is not related to the US....I hope this is allowed)

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well thats just because our lovely and brave Stacy would beat the intruder about the head and neck region with your recently, commencing at the sound of the breaking glass, poop filled diaper!

YOU WUSSY!!!!!!

loves to the FAMILY Brother

FLOTSOM

P.S. Our Knives are sharp!         

   you know it brother

 

[mechanic]

I don't own a hand gun, my choice. I have no problem with those that do. Frankly I have never been confronted by an anti gun promoter. I really don't think there is that many anti-gun enthusiast.

i expect alot of them are dead

[BnZs]

*sigh*

People just don't get it. They argue about whether the latest gun control scheme will increase or decrease crime 2%, or other such stats which I will freely admit are irrelevant to me.

I consider Liberty an end in itself. If they are allowed to slap all kinds of regulations or ban outright something so many enjoy as an innocuous hobby, then what CAN'T they do on some sort of trumped-up social utilitarian reason?

Like I say, the "regulator" types pass their legislation and it fails to deliver Utopia, so they stay in their negative feedback loop and write another regulation. The phrase "I keep cutting and cutting and it is STILL too short." come to mind. Better yet, "I keep pulling back on the stick and it STILL keeps spinning".

[Vulcan]

Due clue us all in oh master of history. And whats Miss Teen South Carolina got to do with it?

You must like to tickle us with the potential of your vast intellect when you post your one liners Vulcan. One day just spread your wings, write a whole paragraph, and try and make a point.

Please please tell me you're not thats stupid?

Ok, you are. Here's a couple of clues, google Miss Teen South Carolina "speech", and then google Chinese revolution. Come back to me with the stunning results.

[mechanic]

i was being a dork. i think guns are great, i was just looking at MTNMAN's wishing i could do that.

[Vulcan]

Last I read crime was much higher in England than in the US per capita. Gun and non gun. If you dig enough I think you'll find that most crimes involving a gun in the US... the gun is not registered or legal.

Incorrect. The thing with comparing crime rates is quite often the worse the true crime rate the lower the reported crimes, and in countries with low crime rates there is a higher rate of reporting for more minor offences. Look at gun murder rates as true example, in the USA you're 29 times that of NZ - and NZ still has a relatively high gun ownership level (especially compared to the UK), forgot what it was vs the UK.