Skid break manuever

[Yenny]

I was researching this manuever because blukitty used it on me and I got caugh by it because I wasn't thinking a head that she would perform that manuever!. I've used it on a few other people and it works perfectly but getting caught up by it sux=p.

tada ! here it is the Dogfight show version of it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlfOWZHEGNk

And here is the version of me getting my arse handed to me by blukitty using that manuever.
http://files.filefront.com/Breakahf/;12380411;/fileinfo.html

[Ack-Ack]

It's an old trick he used to do when he used to fly under ManeTMP as well.  Just look for the tail to start skidding and you know he's about to do it on you.  Just burn your excess energy and saddle up and plaster him when he tries it.


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[JimBeam]

key word HE 

[BnZs]

Probably works better in real life than sims because of no distance ticker and because the attacker is working under the assumption that the defender doesn't see him on his dead six, as was the case with 80% of a2a kills in WWII.

[Ack-Ack]

Probably works better in real life than sims because of no distance ticker and because the attacker is working under the assumption that the defender doesn't see him on his dead six, as was the case with 80% of a2a kills in WWII.

It works good in sims if you can catch the attacker unaware of that is about to happen and considering the majority that play don't have a clue, it's a rather successful reversal maneuver.


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[Yenny]

It works well at close range, and when you're not expecting. It's like a smack in da face !

[skribetm]

certainly got on your six there using the trick move as part of a rolling scissor. but i could be wrong with what i saw. im not sure you couldve caught what he was trying to do while in that scissor, especially when he's high above you. would a barrel roll before he started firing make him overshoot?

the pilot in the youtube video(don bryan) was awesome! reminds me of a richard candelaria move ive been trying to do but could never duplicate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdCm5z2RpI8

thanks for sharing <S> 


 

[Yenny]

That manuever is also duplicated in AH2, I think widewing Posted a vid of him performing it some where.

[Steve]

Cool stuff. I don't do either of these moves but they sure look nifty. I believe I'll go to the TA and add these.   

[USRanger]

Karaya did the ol' skid move on my pony in an F6F once.  If I remember well, I yelled "Oh S***!" out loud.  It's a beautiful move when the timing is perfect.

[BaldEagl]

I had a Spit VIII try it on me one night.  It was really cool to watch.  Sadly, he didn't get to live to tell about what a great move it was.

[Vulcan]

It's an old trick he used to do when he used to fly under ManeTMP as well.  Just look for the tail to start skidding and you know he's about to do it on you.  Just burn your excess energy and saddle up and plaster him when he tries it.

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Ahhh so thats where mane went, why the sex/name change?

[Badboy]

I was researching this manuever because blukitty used it on me and I got caugh by it because I wasn't thinking a head that she would perform that manuever!. I've used it on a few other people and it works perfectly but getting caught up by it sux=p.

Hi Yenny,

Hmm, not sure if you have had anyone else review the film, but I'm seeing something very different to what you are describing. Did you post the correct film?  If so, it appears as though you lost that fight for a different reason. I'd be happy to help if you are interested?

Badboy

[humble]

That was just a solid reversal nothing more. what makes it appear similiar is the combination of rudder & throttle use your seeing while your still behind bluekitty. He's so far ahead of you angularly your literally flying thru his move as its happening. My comments here are pretty simple...

at 1:02, 1:12, 1:27 & 1:32 you froze the nose momentarily looking for shots. If you look at your one shot window between 1:12 & 1:27 you flew thru the shot like you should. Basically you lost a rolling scissor to a very good stick. Was actually some nice flying but vs anyone at that level you cant afford to ever freeze your nose for even an instant. whatlooked like the "break skid" was actually blukitty flying the nose thru your flight path into lead vs trying to wait on you for the shot. Win the angles battle and the shot naturally will occur.

[Yenny]

look at the moment when it happens though, he rolled the different direction to perform a skid.