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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2008, 04:31:55 PM »
The Royal Marines have a solution for this nonsense.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2008, 05:11:37 PM »
owch more than a 1/4 of saudi arabias oil output hurts  :uhoh
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2008, 05:22:48 PM »
This kind of stuff won't go on for much longer. With all of the recent pirates problems making it to the media, I just don't see it lasting.

In this latest situation I wouldn't be surprised if a US based assault team like the SEALS boards the ship at night and simply kills the pirates. That seems like such a simple solution, although according to that report there have been ships under pirate control since September :huh.
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« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2008, 06:36:01 PM »
The somali govt doesnt seem to concerned about it.
seems some form of military solution is in order for the pirates and the somali govt who are certainly profiting from it.
its just a matter of time before their ports will be occupied and removed from their control.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2008, 07:26:02 PM »
The somali govt doesnt seem to concerned about it.
seems some form of military solution is in order for the pirates and the somali govt who are certainly profiting from it.
its just a matter of time before their ports will be occupied and removed from their control.

Why would they take care of it, its money flowing into thier economy and its less people for them to take care of, its a extremely good for them
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2008, 08:14:04 PM »
Why would they take care of it, its money flowing into thier economy and its less people for them to take care of, its a extremely good for them

that was the purpose of my post.
I guess I didnt word it properly.

"seems some form of military solution is in order for the pirates and the somali govt who are certainly profiting from it"

I meant for both the pirates and the somali govt to see a military solution to eliminate the problem, against them.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2008, 08:52:18 PM »
Short of a multi national naval blockade I don't know how an organized response can be made to the continuing piracy. I'm not familiar with Naval operations so am out of my comfort zone in thinking about tactics for it.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2008, 09:00:21 PM »
Hitting the Saudi oil?

Yep, this won't go on much longer. I'd expect some real punishment dished out in the near future.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2008, 09:23:31 PM »
What we need now are a few good privateers.  The countries who are being affected by these pirates should be issuing letters of marque and promise the privateers a portion of the recovered cargo.  I bet the problem would resolve itself pretty quick.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2008, 09:28:43 PM »
"Somali Govt" doesn't mean too much...  The govt we recognize there doesn't control much of the country, and the pirates are big players in funding the islamist insurgency.  Both sides claim that they are the legit govt.  So far, the only nation who has been invited in to help in all ways with the piracy problem are the Russians, but they simply don't have the navy or funding for effective expeditionary forces.

The US and our other NATO allies could probably do it, but we weren't invited.

As for why the oil tanker managed to get caught, imagine the ecological disaster an RPG or two would cause...  If I was a pirate I'd have one dude tasked to vent the entire tanker to sea if he saw or heard anything resembling a rescue or boarding party.  The amount they're asking is less than what it would cost to clean up the mess if the oil was dumped, so the boat owners (or whoever contracted for the cargo) will probably just pay to avoid getting sued out of existence.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2008, 05:03:02 AM »
I guess the ships can be boarded since the Pirates could do it in the first place.
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2008, 05:55:44 AM »
"Somali Govt" doesn't mean too much...  The govt we recognize there doesn't control much of the country, and the pirates are big players in funding the islamist insurgency.  Both sides claim that they are the legit govt.  So far, the only nation who has been invited in to help in all ways with the piracy problem are the Russians, but they simply don't have the navy or funding for effective expeditionary forces.

The US and our other NATO allies could probably do it, but we weren't invited.

As for why the oil tanker managed to get caught, imagine the ecological disaster an RPG or two would cause...  If I was a pirate I'd have one dude tasked to vent the entire tanker to sea if he saw or heard anything resembling a rescue or boarding party.  The amount they're asking is less than what it would cost to clean up the mess if the oil was dumped, so the boat owners (or whoever contracted for the cargo) will probably just pay to avoid getting sued out of existence.
I'm curious why there isn't some interdiction hardware on tankers to prevent any uninvited ships from getting within RPG range.  Is it that these pirate groups have the means to one-up any such long arm defense strategy?
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2008, 07:28:42 AM »
don't worry hillary has a plan LOL
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Re: Pirates capture Saudi oil tanker
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2008, 07:38:41 AM »
This kind of stuff won't go on for much longer. With all of the recent pirates problems making it to the media, I just don't see it lasting.

In this latest situation I wouldn't be surprised if a US based assault team like the SEALS boards the ship at night and simply kills the pirates. That seems like such a simple solution, although according to that report there have been ships under pirate control since September :huh.

Well the presence of two Brits "might" justify American military action. But only that would! As far as Im concerned they can grab as many Saudis as they want. Let the Saudis grow some stones and deal with it. Most of all since their smelly little Kingdom has been the biggest monetary supporter of Islamic violence in the region, and in the world. And I wonder how many thousands of young Saudis, seeking adventure, have gone south to fight with the Islamic factions in Somalia?

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