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Offline StokesAk

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4MGs Better Than 6?
« on: November 23, 2008, 12:11:36 PM »
In the P51D Whitch is Better the 4x50MG pack or the 6x50MG Pack?
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2008, 12:24:53 PM »
i would say 6
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2008, 12:35:11 PM »
I'd say it was personal preference.  4x .50cals are quite lethal, if you hit at the convergence point that is.


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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2008, 12:52:16 PM »
I'd say it was personal preference.  4x .50cals are quite lethal, if you hit at the convergence point that is.


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In terms of lethality, I would say the 6 .50s are more lethal because more guns/ammo?
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2008, 01:00:31 PM »
The P51D loaded with 50% fuel weighs 9368 pounds with the 6 gun package, and 9213 pounds with the 4 gun package. That's a 1.01% increase in weight with the 6 gun package... I would use that.

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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2008, 01:26:14 PM »

In terms of lethality, I would say the 6 .50s are more lethal because more guns/ammo?


The lethality does increase.


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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2008, 01:28:26 PM »
If you like 4 mg's just fly the B Poni.....its a much more fun aircraft to fight in modes other than BnZ.

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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2008, 01:29:26 PM »
The lethality does increase.


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Would think so...that's extra bullets being chunked at ya at the same time!
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2008, 02:39:27 PM »
If someone can't hit with 4 mgs then having 6 isn't going to make much difference.
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2008, 08:48:51 AM »
If someone can't hit with 4 mgs then having 6 isn't going to make much difference.

With that logic, why not just go to one MG and save yourself all that unneeded weight.
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2008, 10:32:06 AM »
With that logic, why not just go to one MG and save yourself all that unneeded weight.
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2008, 03:30:06 PM »
With that logic, why not just go to one MG and save yourself all that unneeded weight.


You miss his point.  Adding a couple of more guns isn't going to make you any more accurate in your shooting.  It just means you're going to be putting more lead down range.


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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2008, 03:37:36 PM »

You miss his point.  Adding a couple of more guns isn't going to make you any more accurate in your shooting.  It just means you're going to be putting more lead down range.


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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2008, 04:01:52 PM »
And there were numerous instances where pilots took out MGs to save weight with the logic if they couldn't hit with 4 they wouldn't hit with 6.   The "Superbolt" took 4 of the 8 MGs out in an effort to increase performance.  Many of the MTO Spit drivers took out the 4 303s and relied only on their 2 cannons in an effort to increase performance.

Keep in mind that many of the best 51 drivers scored the majority of their kills in 51Bs.  Don Gentile, Duane Beeson being two examples who never flew D models in combat.  Richard Turner of the 354th FG has written in a couple different places how he felt the Malcom hood, P51B was the best of the Mustangs with better visibility then the D, and better performance.

I guess it is much about personal preference.
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Re: 4MGs Better Than 6?
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2008, 04:27:01 PM »
"With that logic, why not just go to one MG and save yourself all that unneeded weight."

It is exactly that logic why i wish the p39 had a .50 cal option for its cannon spot, with a ton of ammo "say 1000+ rounds"
yeah, i would not mind.

Imagine the 38 with x5 .50's laser guning targets like the A20G can.




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