4MGs Better Than 6?

[Cipher77]

personally i actually seem to get more kills w/4 50s than 6 or eight.

[Becinhu]

With regard to a F4F the 4 gun package has more total ammo and longer firing time than the 6 gun package.  I seem to hit better with a 4 gun as well.  In 2 FSOs with F4F with 4 gun I have 10 kills. In one FSO with 6 gun I have 1 kill.

[Ack-Ack]

Imagine the 38 with x5 .50's laser guning targets like the A20G can.

Such a shame.

Why?  The 4x .50 cals and 20mm Hispano do the trick quite nicely on the P-38.


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[Banshee7]

Why?  The 4x .50 cals and 20mm Hispano do the trick quite nicely on the P-38.


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Dang skippy!  Then..when you're out of 20mm rounds and up to 10-15 kills..you can still kill with the 4 .50s!

[Rich46yo]

Ive shredded IL2s with a burst from an 8 gunned P-47. I assume all of you have to. Could you imagine doing the same with a 4 gun plane? Oh if your a good enough shot 4 guns is enough, weve all killed fighters with an M3 0.50 . But 8 0.50s is fearsome. 6 is good. And 4 is good enough.

I had a buddy who flew Jugs in Europe and he used knock the snot out of an entire railroad train with his 8 0.50s.

[Banshee7]

That's the difference.  What .50s could do in real life (to ground targets especially) and what they can do in game are different.

[Ack-Ack]

With regard to a F4F the 4 gun package has more total ammo and longer firing time than the 6 gun package.  I seem to hit better with a 4 gun as well.  In 2 FSOs with F4F with 4 gun I have 10 kills. In one FSO with 6 gun I have 1 kill.

F4F with the 6x .50 cals has the same ammo load as those with 4x .50 cals.  The reason why it seems like the F4F has more rounds is that the rounds are spread out between 4 guns instead of 6.


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[Saxman]

Actually the F4F DOES carry more ammunition in the 4-gun configuration.

4 guns: 430rds/gun = 1720rds
6 guns: 240rds/gun = 1440rds

[Bronk]

Ive shredded IL2s with a burst from an 8 gunned P-47. I assume all of you have to. Could you imagine doing the same with a 4 gun plane? Oh if your a good enough shot 4 guns is enough, weve all killed fighters with an M3 0.50 . But 8 0.50s is fearsome. 6 is good. And 4 is good enough.

It is all about the convergence point and gun placement. Nose mounted guns have almost no convergence issue where wing mounted it is more critical.
If you are hitting with one gun with the 38 you are going to hit with all, at all reasonable distances. Same can not be said for wing mounted gun AC.

[BaldEagl]

In the P51D Whitch is Better the 4x50MG pack or the 6x50MG Pack?

Neither.  It's the 8x.50 package in the Jugs.

[Rebel]

Ive shredded IL2s with a burst from an 8 gunned P-47. I assume all of you have to. Could you imagine doing the same with a 4 gun plane? Oh if your a good enough shot 4 guns is enough, weve all killed fighters with an M3 0.50 . But 8 0.50s is fearsome. 6 is good. And 4 is good enough.

I had a buddy who flew Jugs in Europe and he used knock the snot out of an entire railroad train with his 8 0.50s.

If you're shooting at d500+, odds are you would likely be able with 8, maybe with 6, and on a very very very lucky at conv shot all in the wing with 4.

However, you tuck that range into just over 300, with your convergence set appropriately, 4 50's will shred just about anything.

[BaldEagl]

If you're shooting at d500+, odds are you would likely be able with 8, maybe with 6, and on a very very very lucky at conv shot all in the wing with 4.

However, you tuck that range into just over 300, with your convergence set appropriately, 4 50's will shred just about anything.

I've taken the wings off 2-3 bombers so far this camp using only the 2x13mm's in a 109K-4 and have also done so with the 2x.50 cals in a Spit XVI.  Any gun package can kill or shred with the right convergence, aim and time (time is the least important of these if the first two conditions are met).

[Ack-Ack]

Ive shredded IL2s with a burst from an 8 gunned P-47. I assume all of you have to. Could you imagine doing the same with a 4 gun plane?

If you hit the tail section or the wing root on the Il2, it will be quite easy to take down.  Historically, the wing root section and tail were structural weak points in the Il2.  Another weak spot is the oil cooler on the Il2.  If you read Hartmann's Blonde Knight, he described in detail on how he'd take down Il2s.  He'd aim for the wing root area, tail or if he came in from below, aim for the oil cooler.  Using his tactics, it's quite easy to take out an Il2 in one pass.


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[Saxman]

To be honest, I find Il-2's rather easy to knock down so long as I don't overshoot as they're not hard to get a good solid tracking shot on. I just line up and hose him down with my .50s until something breaks.

[B3YT]

Neither.  It's the 8x.50 package in the Jugs.

your all wrong 8 or 12 .303 guns