Shade killing detection system.

[MaSonZ]

I guess the important question is was this u2007 person killing a shade or not?  Apparently not.  Then step two in the checklist is, did his repeated killing of this person unfairly place him into rank contention?  Or maybe he was simply perk farming, which while also a dweebtastic activity, not quite the cheap cheating for rank like Amsoil21.

Perhaps HTC doesn't find the perk farming by two paying customers to be quite as foul as the rank cheating.

Just a thought, not saying that it is (or should be) the case, just a possibility.

 

ill be the first to say this in this thread. if i was hurting for perks, and felt like being a low life, i would intentionally vulch a shade just to gain some free perks. Im not saying ill do it all day, but im saying for just one (maybe 2) sorties. anywho, 

P.S. btw, if HTC had a thing against perk farming, im sure there would be a lot of people getting a talk to, or even booted from game.

my .02

[PFactorDave]

ill be the first to say this in this thread. if i was hurting for perks, and felt like being a low life, i would intentionally vulch a shade just to gain some free perks.

Of course finding a CV fight and upping an A6M2 is a whole lot more fun without the hit to whatever (if any) reputation you have established.  Personally, the only perked plane I really ever fly is a 262.  I fly them so rarely that I have yet to find myself too perk poor to pay for one.

[Steve]

ill be the first to say this in this thread. if i was hurting for perks, and felt like being a low life, i would intentionally vulch a shade just to gain some free perks. Im not saying ill do it all day, but im saying for just one (maybe 2) sorties. anywho, 

P.S. btw, if HTC had a thing against perk farming, im sure there would be a lot of people getting a talk to, or even booted from game.

my .02

I'll be the first to say that this is a clear indication that you are a person of low character. What's your in game name?  I want to be sure to give you no aid when I'm on your side  and kill you every chance I get when I'm not.

Ahh I see your name in  your sig, noted.

[Ack-Ack]

ill be the first to say this in this thread. if i was hurting for perks, and felt like being a low life, i would intentionally vulch a shade just to gain some free perks. Im not saying ill do it all day, but im saying for just one (maybe 2) sorties. anywho, 

P.S. btw, if HTC had a thing against perk farming, im sure there would be a lot of people getting a talk to, or even booted from game.

my .02

Pathetic.  Just shows that you lack and unwilling to learn the necessary skills in order to gain perks the normal way.  It's players like you that have brought down the game play to the point where it's at, WTG big guy!


ack-ack

[Stang]

His in game name is Masonz.  He missed me tonight, heh.

 

[hubsonfire]

Isn't that the exact same thing essentially? In principle at least...

A shades account is a disguise- a second (or additional, or new) account that is not known to other players, and is not associated with you. Vulching your buddy in the EW 25 times isn't abusing a shades account, it's just abusing the scoring systems. I know at least a dozen players who either have, or have had, multiple accounts. There's been no abuse of those accounts, that I'm aware of- in these cases, it was simply a way to enjoy the game anonymously- to just fly without worrying about their squads, scores, dedicated planes, anklehumpers, whatever.

A shades and exploiting scoring are very different, and not necessarily related, things.

[Lusche]

P.S. btw, if HTC had a thing against perk farming, im sure there would be a lot of people getting a talk to, or even booted from game.

HTC has a thing against perk farming and players have been stripped of ALL scores and perks for such behaviour.

[MaSonZ]

I'll be the first to say that this is a clear indication that you are a person of low character. What's your in game name?  I want to be sure to give you no aid when I'm on your side  and kill you every chance I get when I'm not.

Ahh I see your name in  your sig, noted.

Pathetic.  Just shows that you lack and unwilling to learn the necessary skills in order to gain perks the normal way.  It's players like you that have brought down the game play to the point where it's at, WTG big guy!


ack-ack

Steve and ackack, i had just been stating. ask any squad member of a squad ive been in, im not that low. I could very easily get that low, but in reality im far from it. you show me respect, i show you respect. simple enough. after what Lusche said:

HTC has a thing against perk farming and players have been stripped of ALL scores and perks for such behaviour.

i wouldnt, but i have no reason to perk farm on purpose by vulching a shade account. sure, i lose my share of 262's like many others, but im not so low i need to vulch a shade account. you can look at my stats and tell me how i bring the game down ackack, but when you find nothing to prove it, ill just sit here and laugh. Honestly, id really like to meet some of the keyboard tough guys out there 1-1 and just see how snobby they are.

[Dream Child]

I think the community can police itself if it is allowed to.  Skuzzy got fed up with it in another thread and declared Musashi not a shade of u2007      Can anyone explain how he came to that conclusion?

It is kinda sad that with all the killing of Musashi, he still has a less than 1:1 kill ratio.

[Steve]

Steve and ackack,  you show me respect, i show you respect. simple enough. 

You've admitted you are capable of slimy behavior...  I don't see anything to respect.  *shrug*

[uptown]

A shades account is a disguise- a second (or additional, or new) account that is not known to other players, and is not associated with you. Vulching your buddy in the EW 25 times isn't abusing a shades account, it's just abusing the scoring systems. I know at least a dozen players who either have, or have had, multiple accounts. There's been no abuse of those accounts, that I'm aware of- in these cases, it was simply a way to enjoy the game anonymously- to just fly without worrying about their squads, scores, dedicated planes, anklehumpers, whatever.

A shades and exploiting scoring are very different, and not necessarily related, things.

Wow! I agree with Hub. And I thought that would never happen 

[MaSonZ]

You've admitted you are capable of slimy behavior...  I don't see anything to respect.  *shrug*

with this you are saying that you in no way can show slimy behaviour? no matter how hard you try?


BTW everyone...HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!

[thndregg]

ill be the first to say this in this thread. if i was hurting for perks, and felt like being a low life, i would intentionally vulch a shade just to gain some free perks. Im not saying ill do it all day, but im saying for just one (maybe 2) sorties. anywho, 

P.S. btw, if HTC had a thing against perk farming, im sure there would be a lot of people getting a talk to, or even booted from game.

my .02

Minimizing the fact that you simply choose to do such a thing does not make it right. Because this is played over the internet (with/against people you do not see face to face) does not make your unethical tactic right.

[LYNX]

I think the community can police itself if it is allowed to.  Skuzzy got fed up with it in another thread and declared Musashi not a shade of u2007      Can anyone explain how he came to that conclusion?

First off Skuzzy says it's not a shade.  You can take that to mean he has information to say it's 2 different people.  As for Skuzzy getting fed up that's not quite right.  His objection was to my over assumptions in follow up posts beyond the Opening Post, in that locked thread.  I clearly didn't have the proof to justify those assumptions.  I extend my apologies to Skuzzy for my over zealous infractions. 

I believe this new scoring page is a valuable tool not only for the individual but also for the ethics of the game.  Once this new system is up and running on the home page and known by all, we'll see less and less shenanigans.   When one suspects skulduggery the information is at hand in black and white and further more, known to be so.  Your assumptions will be dismissed or validated.

Anything beyond score and perk farming such as spying on mission, captured CV's, rerouting CV's, one is still left with little more than speculation.  No matter how justified your assessment of charactor/s are.   No matter what the other circumstantial evidence is.  No matter the hunch or gut feeling.... it's speculation.  Without proof it's speculations.  Skuzzy is basically saying speculation, left to run riot
or not justified, is another form of degradation of ethics ......which it is.

As for these 2 charactors mentioned above <tong in cheek> I can only speculate      






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